I wasn't talking about the links that are on the list (I already make those bookmarkable). I'm talking about the links that the Navigator generates. How do I make it so page 2 is bookmarkable?
-----Original Message----- From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:30 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: Removing the jsessionid for SEO instead of item.add(new link("foo") { onclick() }); do item.add(new bookmarkablepagelink("foo", page.class)); -igor On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How? I asked how to do it before and nobody suggested this as a > possibility. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Igor Vaynberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:26 PM > To: users@wicket.apache.org > Subject: Re: Removing the jsessionid for SEO > > dataview can work in a stateless mode, just use bookmarkable links inside it > > -igor > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Dan Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Regardless, at the very least this makes your site look "weird" and > > unprofessional when google puts a jsessionid on your url. There has got > to > > be some negative effect when google visits it the second time and the > > jsessionid has changed but it sees the same exact content. Worst case, > > it'll think you're trying to trick it. > > > > About those 404s, I'm finding that with the fix I provided I don't get a > > 404, but the links refresh the page I'm already on. IE: If I'm on A, and > a > > link to B is non-bookmarkable, clicking B refreshes A. > > > > This issue is very disconcerting to me. It's one of the reasons I wish > that > > DataView had an option to work in stateless mode. Cause if I ban cookies > > and Googlebot visits my home page (with a navigator on it), it'll try to > > follow all these page links and from its perspective, they all lead back > to > > the first page. So it's kinda a catch-22: Include the jsessionid in the > > urls and get bad SEO or remove the jsessionid and get bad SEO :( > > > > Perhaps the answer to my prayers is a combination of the noindex/nofollow > > meta tag with a sitemap.xml. I'm thinking I can put a nofollow on the > home > > page (so googlebot doesn't try to follow the navigator links) and use the > > sitemap.xml to point out the individual pages I want it to index. > > > > > > Matej: can you go into more detail about your hybrid URL statement? > Won't > > google index, for example, /home and /home.1 if I use it? When it > follows > > the next page, won't the url become /home.1.2 or something? That .2 is a > > page version: If google indexes that and tries to visit it again, won't > it > > report about an invalid session? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matej Knopp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:10 AM > > To: users@wicket.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Removing the jsessionid for SEO > > > > On the other hand, crawling non-bookmarkable pages is not very useful > > anyway, since ?wicket:interface url will always get page expired when > > you click on the result. > > > > However, preserving session makes lot of sense with hybrid url. Google > > remembers the original url (without page instance) while indexing the > > real page (after redirect). > > > > I think though that the crawler is quite advanced. I'm would think it > > supports cookies (at least JSESSIONID) as well as it evaluates some of > > the javascript on page. > > > > -Matej > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Igor Vaynberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > right. if you strip sessionid then all your nonbookmarkable urls will > > > resolve to a 404. that will probably drop your rank a lot faster.... > > > > > > -igor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Johan Compagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > the problem is that then you have to have all stateless pages. Else > > google > > > > can't crawl your website. > > > > And if that is the case then you could be completely stateless so > you > > dont > > > > have a session (id) to worry about at all. > > > > > > > > johan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Zappaterrini, Larry < > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > When Google asks to not have special treatment for their bot, > they > > are > > > > > referring to content more than anything. Regarding the session id > > being > > > > > coded in the URL, see the Technical guidelines section of > Google's > > > > > Webmaster Guidelines - > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769#desi > > > > > gn > > > > > > > > > > It specifically recommends "allow(ing) search bots to crawl your > > sites > > > > > without session IDs or arguments that track their path through > the > > > > > site." > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Johan Compagner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:35 AM > > > > > To: users@wicket.apache.org > > > > > Subject: Re: Removing the jsessionid for SEO > > > > > > > > > > isnt google always saying that you shouldn't alter behavior of > your > > site > > > > > depending of it is there bot or not? > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Artur W. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > igor.vaynberg wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also by doing what you have done users with cookies disabled > > wont be > > > > > > > able to use your site... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my opinion session id is a problem. Google index the same > page > > > > > again > > > > > > and > > > > > > again. > > > > > > > > > > > > About the users without cookies we can do like this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > static class Unbuffered extends WebResponse { > > > > > > > > > > > > private static final String[] botAgents = { > > > > > "onetszukaj", > > > > > > "googlebot", > > > > > > "appie", "architext", > > > > > > "jeeves", "bjaaland", "ferret", > "gulliver", > > > > > > "harvest", "htdig", > > > > > > "linkwalker", "lycos_", "moget", > > > > > "muscatferret", > > > > > > "myweb", "nomad", > > > > > > "scooter", > > > > > > "yahoo!\\sslurp\\schina", "slurp", > > "weblayers", > > > > > > "antibot", "bruinbot", > > > > > > "digout4u", > > > > > > "echo!", "ia_archiver", "jennybot", > > "mercator", > > > > > > "netcraft", "msnbot", > > > > > > "petersnews", > > > > > > "unlost_web_crawler", "voila", > "webbase", > > > > > > "webcollage", "cfetch", > > > > > > "zyborg", > > > > > > "wisenutbot", "robot", "crawl", "spider" > }; > > /* > > > > > and > > > > > > so on... */ > > > > > > > > > > > > public Unbuffered(final HttpServletResponse res) > { > > > > > > super(res); > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > @Override > > > > > > public CharSequence encodeURL(final CharSequence url) { > > > > > > return isAgent() ? url : super.encodeURL(url); > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > private static boolean isAgent() { > > > > > > > > > > > > String agent = > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ((WebRequest)RequestCycle.get().getRequest()).getHttpServletRequest().ge > > > > > tHeader("User-Agent"); > > > > > > > > > > > > for(String bot : botAgents) { > > > > > > if > > (agent.toLowerCase().indexOf(bot) != > > > > > -1) > > > > > > { > > > > > > return true; > > > > > > } > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > return false; > > > > > > } > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't test this code but I do similar thing in my old > > application > > > > > in > > > > > > Spring and it works. > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > Artur > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > View this message in context: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.nabble.com/Removing-the-jsessionid-for-SEO-tp16464534p1646739 > > > > > > > > 6.html<http://www.nabble.com/Removing-the-jsessionid-for-SEO-tp16464534p1646 > > 7396.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from the Wicket - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________ > > > > > > > > > > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or > > > > > confidential. If you are not the > > > > > intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all > copies; > > (ii) do > > > > > not disclose, > > > > > distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the > > sender > > > > > immediately. In addition, > > > > > please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is > subject > > to > > > > > archiving and review by > > > > > persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. > > > > > _____________ > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Resizable and reorderable grid components. > > http://www.inmethod.com > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
