Sorry, I should have been more clear about subtype. :) When dealing with raw types, the raw type is considered a super type of the generic type. So Bar is a super type of Bar<?>. Since RawType extends the raw type Bar, consider it to be a peer of Bar<?>. When you consider them as peers, a warning is warranted. The new example you use works due to erasure. Bar<?> as declared in source code becomes Bar in byte code. So the statement becomes:
Bar bar = new RawBar(); Which is perfectly legal. I have found that most of perceived inconsistencies in Java generics stems from erasure and sub type substitution. The golden rule of generics is that the byte code produced by compiling generics will never produce an invalid cast so long as the code does not produce any warnings. This causes some things that may seem intuitive to be illegal. -----Original Message----- From: Sebastiaan van Erk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 4:16 PM To: users@wicket.apache.org Subject: Re: (Class<? extends Page<?>>) casting troubles Zappaterrini, Larry wrote: > In the example you have detailed, RawBar is not a subtype of Bar<?> > since it extends the raw type Bar. I guess it depends on the definition of subtype. It is at least the case that the following assignment compiles without warnings (without warnings about unchecked casts): Bar<?> bar = new RawBar(); So is it then a subtype? Or isn't it? It's all terribly inconsistent if you ask me. :-( Regards, Sebastiaan > -----Original Message----- > From: Sebastiaan van Erk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:31 AM > To: users@wicket.apache.org > Subject: Re: (Class<? extends Page<?>>) casting troubles > > ARgh, you always make typos with this stuff. > > See correction. > > Sebastiaan van Erk wrote: >> Martin Funk wrote: >> >>>> Class<? extends Page<?>> means "class of (anything that extends > (page of >>>> anything))". >>> I'm not so sure. >> There are 2 separate issues: >> >> ISSUE 1: Foo<? extends Bar<?>> is not assignable from a Foo<RawBar> >> where RawBar extends Bar as a raw type. That is, given: >> >> static class Foo<T> { >> } >> >> static class Bar<T> { >> } >> >> static class RawBar extends Bar { >> } >> >> static class SubBar<T> extends Bar<T> { >> } >> >> Thus: >> >> Bar<?> bar = new RawBar(); // works, because RawBar is a subtype of > >> Bar<?> >> >> But: >> >> Foo<? extends Bar<?>> rawbar = new RawBar(); // DOES NOT WORK - > THIS >> IS CAUSING ONE HALF OF ALL OUR HEADACHES > > (correction:) > Foo<? extends Bar<?>> rawbar = new Foo<RawBar>(); // DOES NOT WORK - > > THIS IS CAUSING ONE HALF OF ALL OUR HEADACHES > > Btw, this does work (like you expect): > Foo<? extends Bar<?>> rawbar2 = new Foo<SubBar<?>>(); > >> Note that this is the issue that complete baffles me, as RawBar is a >> subtype of Bar<?>, so I *really* *really* *REALLY* have no idea why > the >> compiler chokes on this. >> >> ISSUE 2: The class literal of a generic type returns a class of a raw >> type. Thus Foo.class return Class<Foo>. This is also really messed > up, >> because: >> >> Class<Foo> fc = Foo.class; >> >> compiles, but generates a warning (reference to raw type). But if you >> type this in eclipse: >> >> x fc = Foo.class; >> >> and use eclipse quickfix to change "x" to the "correct" type, it'll >> change it to precisely Class<Foo> (the JLS is very short about this, > see >> also >> > http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/expressions.html#1 > 5.8.2). >> >> So what the heck is the proper type for the class literal??? I > couldn't >> find any! >> >> Finally, note that when you define a method like this: >> >> static void method1(Foo<? extends Bar<?>> y) { >> } >> >> it works like a charm for a new Foo<SubBar<String>>, i.e., the "Foo of > >> (anything that extends (bar of anything))" really is the correct >> interpretation. >> >> It's just that the interaction with raw types is completely *foobar* >> (pun intended). >> >> Regards, >> Sebastiaan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ______________ > > The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, > distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, > please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by > persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. > _____________ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ______________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _____________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]