you've got to admit it's a short distance between bloody fist fights in a
basement for no purpose whatsoever and using struts.


Peter Ertl-3 wrote:
> 
> Struts Club?!
> 
> That's disgusting :-(
> 
> Am 11.01.2010 um 22:57 schrieb Jonathan Locke:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> that's because it's the number one rule!  nobody talks about Struts Club.
>> 
>> 
>> igor.vaynberg wrote:
>>> 
>>> here is an interesting tidbit
>>> 
>>> wicket is on the front page of nabble
>>> 
>>> http://old.nabble.com/
>>> 
>>> sorted by activity. we are there along maven, jquery, cxf, tomcat,
>>> etc. how is the adoption on those?
>>> 
>>> -igor
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Lester Chua <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the links.
>>>> I have already submitted them as part of the evaluation process.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll take a look at the IBM links from scott.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Lester
>>>> 
>>>> Steve Swinsburg wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On the wiki there are some pages to help your cause:
>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/websites-based-on-wicket.html
>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/products-based-on-wicket.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> as well as blogs talking about Wicket, and lots more useful PR info:
>>>>> http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/index.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the best!
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 08/01/2010, at 11:43 AM, Lester Chua wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am facing a hurdle that need crossing in my final attempt to push
>>>>>> Wicket for use in an organization.
>>>>>> I have:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1) Prototyped a small size module
>>>>>> 2) Did 2-3 presentations on the key features and advantages of wicket
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No one is disputing my claims about productivity and good OO code
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> was the result.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> BUT, the technology evaluation committee is NOT recommending Wicket
>>>>>> because of..... of all things.....
>>>>>> - Wicket's Low Adoption Rate!!!!
>>>>>> Can I find any numbers to blow this away?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My alternative is to accept the finding and work with Struts 2. Which
>>>>>> will mean the stack will need to expand to DWR
>>>>>> (for security). I REALLY don't want to go there, and am even
>>>>>> considering
>>>>>> not taking part in this project due to the high risk involved, only 9
>>>>>> months
>>>>>> to introduce huge changes to a system that has lots of legacy
>>>>>> problems
>>>>>> (took
>>>>>> about 3 years to build). I think a lot of those years were spent
>>>>>> wrestling
>>>>>> with the monster that is EJB 1.1. The only way I thought the project
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> even be on time is to scrap the entire presentation layer (aka
>>>>>> Struts)
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> redo it in Wicket with 1 dedicated developer while the rest of the
>>>>>> team
>>>>>> work
>>>>>> on killing the beast that is EJB 1.1 by refactoring the biz code.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sigh, my choices are stark. It's either to keep the job and plough
>>>>>> ahead
>>>>>> and probably fail spectacularly 9 months later or go hungry and
>>>>>> explain
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> my wife why we need to spend less on the kid......
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's easy to blame the tech committee but they did help me find
>>>>>> wicket
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> rejecting my initial proposal to build the new system on a
>>>>>> (JQuery+JSON+REST) framework, which can be very productive as well,
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> as "clean" as Wicket.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry for rambling so much. Is there any way I can demolish the silly
>>>>>> low
>>>>>> adoption rate argument (omg I still don't believe it can be so lame)?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lester
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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