Wicket is open source, if you feel that the documentation is lacking - feel
free to contribute.
On Jan 22, 2013 5:54 PM, "Philippe Demaison" <ph.demai...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ondra and Kees,
>
> Are you kidding ?
>
> Are you saying that I need to
>
> - read a book released in 2009 covering wicket 1.3 ?
> - read http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/index.html (for which
> wicket version ? )
> - read the Wicket Cookbook
> - read the migration from 1.x to 1.5
> https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.html
> - read the migration from 1.5 to 1.6
> https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.html
>
> to understand what are the Wicket's benefits and write a POC ?
>
>
> Are you saying that I need to google to read the best practices ?
>
> You know that framework adoption is linked to good documentation.
> Not only of course (quality are community are equally important) but
> documentation is essential.
>
> For example, I find these documentations much more appealing
>
> http://www.playframework.org/documentation/2.0.4/Home
> http://tapestry.apache.org/documentation.html
> https://developers.google.com/web-toolkit/doc/latest/DevGuide
> http://www.springsource.org/spring-framework#documentation
>
> Don't you ?
>
> Philippe
>
> 2013/1/22 Ondrej Zizka <ozi...@redhat.com>
>
> > Hi Phillipe,
> >
> > you're right, the documentation deserves improvements.
> >
> > I would recommend you to start with the Wicket in Action book. That will
> > give you the basic concepts of Wicket.
> > Then continue with the examples from http://www.wicket-library.com/**
> > wicket-examples/index.html<
> http://www.wicket-library.com/wicket-examples/index.html>. That will
> enforce what you learned in the book, and show more tricks.
> > Then go through the Wicket Cookbook. That is a collection of solutions
> and
> > best practices for common tasks.
> > Then skim through https://cwiki.apache.org/**
> > WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.**html<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-15.html>
> > and https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.**html<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/migration-to-wicket-60.html>.
> >
> > It is quite easy to create non-ajax websites. I only have dificulties
> once
> > it gets to Ajax.
> > In such cases, this mailing list is very useful, and also stackoverflow
> > and the multitude of blogs.
> >
> > Not sure what are your other options, but e.g. I prefer Wicket over JSF.
> > Even big JSF fans claim that "JSF is marginally better".
> >
> > And last thing, I would recommend to try Wicket in combination with JBoss
> > AS 7, which made my development quick and easy - redeployment in 3
> seconds,
> > restart in 5 seconds, CDI, JPA and JAAS at hand, the Infinispan cache,
> easy
> > management, ...
> >
> > my2c,
> > Ondra
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 01/22/2013 11:24 AM, Philippe Demaison wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> As Gabor Friedrich from the FAO, we are in my company, L'Oreal,
> comparing
> >> different web frameworks.
> >> Apache Wicket may be the best framework, may be usefull for my company,
> I
> >> don't know.
> >> I don't know because there is no clear documentation for a good
> >> evaluation.
> >>
> >> In fact the documentation is not good.
> >>
> >> The documentation is not up to date, not to say obsolete, not well
> >> organized and definitely not sexy.
> >> Sorry to being rude, I know this is difficult to do, but this is a major
> >> drawback when company and people evaluate Wicket.
> >>
> >> Some articles are for 1.4 or 1.5, not many for 6
> >> Some articles are redundant.
> >>
> >> I am sure the folowing structure could be improved :
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/framework-**documentation.html<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/framework-documentation.html>is
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/index.html<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/index.html>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/**WICKET/documentation-index.**html<
> https://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/documentation-index.html>
> >>
> >> The http://wicket.apache.org/ layout is good.
> >> Why not reorganize the documentation with this layout ?
> >>
> >> Managers want to see benefits, developpers want to learn fast(and have
> >> fun).
> >>
> >>
> >> I tested the mentionned blogs on http://wicket.apache.org/meet/**
> >> blogs.html <http://wicket.apache.org/meet/blogs.html>
> >>
> >> Here is what I found :
> >>
> >> Chillenious! - Eelco Hillenius - http://chillenious.wordpress.**com/<
> http://chillenious.wordpress.com/>
> >> last update : 2008
> >>
> >> Here be beasties - Al Maw - http://herebebeasties.com/
> >> last update : 2009
> >>
> >> Codierspiel - Nathan Hamblen (runs on Wicket) -
> >> http://code.technically.us/
> >> no a single wicket post
> >>
> >> Antwerkz - Justin Lee - http://antwerkz.com/wp/
> >> empty
> >>
> >> Geertjan - Geertjan Wielenga - http://blogs.sun.com/geertjan
> >> http 404 !
> >>
> >> Mystic Coders - Andrew Lombardi and
> >> Wicket by Example - Community driven are pointing to the same address :
> >> http://www.mysticcoders.com/**blog/ <http://www.mysticcoders.com/blog/>
> >>
> >>
> >> For a wider adoption of Wicket,
> >> Best regards to all of you
> >>
> >> Philippe Demaison
> >>
> >>
> >
>

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