Hi,

ossi petz wrote:
> Hallooooooo
> 
> Well i kinda reached the point of another stupid question:
> after a click around-round on 
> http://wikihost:8080/xwiki/bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences
> and turning eny authentication option to yes i dont know the default 
> administration accont.
> 
> is there some default admin account (beside that superadmin)?
> or should i have done that BEFORE clicking around?
> 
> 

If you have installed the deafault xwiki XAR, there is the administrator 
user. Username Admin / password admin.

> 
> When i compare all the .war packaged software to what i am used from php 
> based things (wiki, forums, cms) the most foolproof procedure is this:
> 
>   - upload the files (*.php, .war) to appfolder
>   - connect to the page (http://host/appfolder)
>   - when nothing was installed yet, the installer starts
>   - it asks for the database connection parameters
>   - it asks for an admin account (username, emails, password)
>   - it then installs (creates db, tables, admin account, default files)
>   - in xwiki case even an option to import the default pages from that 
> xar could be added
>   - done. a link to the startpage
>   - now one can login with the admin account and start configuration
>   - if i dont configure the application at this point no damage can be 
> done by anonmyous users. so the default settings are normally a bit 
> strict. but well a wiki may be more open than a cms.
> 
> the goal should be to not have to manually edit config files, security 
> params whatsoever.
> 
> in bamboo (or was it teamcity? both java.war based installations) the 
> location of the log file is configured during the installtion steps. 
> everything crucial to the application.
> 
> 
> the side effect is: no one ever reads instructions. cause its straight 
> forward and alwys the same. no stupid questions either ;-D
> 
> in my opnion we java people should learn from the comfort those php guys 
> came up with.
> 
> 
> thanks for listening :)
> regards
> 
> ossi
> 
> 
> 
> Vincent Massol schrieb:
>> Hi ossi,
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:48 AM, ossi petz wrote:
>>
>>> Hallo
>>>
>>> I did read those pages. I promise! Really! I mean it! Initially it  
>>> didnt
>>> work with the original Mysql dialect. Probably because i did not yet
>>> solve the security trouble i had at that moment.
>>>
>>> i cleaned the database and changed from Mysql5 to the Mysql Dialect  
>>> and
>>> OH see! it works! :-)
>> Glad you got it working!
>>
>>> yet it amazes me: mysql did change a lot of things from version 4.1 to
>>> 5.0 (join syntax, sql strict). i was kinda expecting more detailed
>>> requirements on the database versions. i do a lot of work and
>>> installations on php based software. they all distinguish mysql  
>>> 4.0, 4.1
>>> and 5.0 versions. compared to mediawiki the setup takes ages. well 2
>>> hours compared to 20 minutes. no disaster - yet space for  
>>> improvement :)
>> Well there are 2 options when installing:
>>
>> 1) User want to try quickly or is not too technical: He uses the  
>> standalone installation. (the zip, installer jar or exe). There's  
>> nothing to do, it's all setup; No container, no db to setup.
>>
>> 2) User wants control on his container + DB and is technical: He  
>> picks the WAR AND reads the documentation.
>>
>> For 1), setup takes under a minute.
>> For 2), I would say setup should take about 10 minutes max if you  
>> follow the documentation.
>>
>> Still I'd like to understand why it took longer for you and how  
>> mediawiki's setup is simpler so that we can improve the setup.
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>>> ready for testing now.
>>>
>>> thanks a lot!
>>> regards
>>>
>>> ossi
>>>
>>>
>>> Vincent Massol schrieb:
>>>> Hi ossi,
>>>>
>>>> Why don't you check the Installation guide on xwiki.org? :)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation
>>>>
>>>> You'll see that it has a section about MySQL:
>>>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/InstallationMySQL
>>>>
>>>> The dialect there is different from the one you used. What's sure is
>>>> that the issue is a Hibernate configuration issue.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully, that should solve the trial and error issue :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 20, 2007, at 7:35 PM, ossi petz wrote:
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