On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Ecaterina Valica <vali...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 21:33, Raluca Stavro <raluca.moro...@xwiki.com>wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I really like the last proposal, Caty :) >> >> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Alex Busenius <alex.busen...@xwiki.com> >> wrote: >> > Hi Caty, >> > >> > >> > This version is really cool, just some minor comments: >> > >> > When I mouse over some right icon (FF 3.6), the dropdown menu with >> > allow/deny/etc. is shown, but this menu is very hard to see, because it >> > has almost the same color as the background and the icons are right >> > above the right icons from the line below. >> > >> > The popup with the hint what right it is and why it is inherited is >> > really helpful, but to open it I need to hit the small triangle near to >> > the icon, otherwise only the dropdown menu is shown (but maybe its just >> > because it is not the final version). This might be quite hard for some >> > people. >> > >> > I'd made the icons larger (at least 24x24) and add more contrast (right >> > now inherited rights look like disabled GUI controls to me), especially >> > to the dropdown menu, view right icon and inherited right arrow from the >> > menu. >> >> I think that the tooltip can be added on mouse click. This would imply >> adding a nice question mark instead of that small arrow, and the user >> would click anywhere on the span with the class name "summary". And >> another improvement would be to add more padding to the drop down >> menus. Caty is currently using the secondary background color, right? >> Maybe we should use the highlight color, but I'm not sure of that. >> > > Thanks Raluca. Yes, a better solution is be to increase the padding and also > use $theme.backgroundSecondaryColor (or a darker tone). > The problem is that on default theme, backgroundSecondaryColor is a gray > color and the contrast with the gray icon is not that good. > > In terms of interaction I think "hover on tooltip" and "click on arrow" for > changing the rights is better. The user browse the rights to see the > inheritance and see what those rights means, and when he made up his mind he > clicks and change the right. > There are more cases when the users is just browsing the rights, inspecting > or see rights meaning, than actually change them; so the harder activity > (clicking) should be put on changing the right. > > The small arrow is a sign that there is a menu. If the menu will appear on > click, the arrow is necessary to work as an invitation and also to keep the > consistency with actionMenus. > > Raluca, do you think we should use bigger icons, like Alex suggested? Maybe > if we put enough padding and we work a bit on the contrast > (backgroundSecondaryColor, highlightColor) this won't be necessary.
No, the icon size is ok. I modified a bit proposal 5.1 (I hope it's ok with you Caty, otherwise we can revert the changes and add proposal 5.2) http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights51Space . I added more padding, more margin, a bigger width for the available rights to change (.submenuitem a span.changedRight) and I've made the arrow a bit bigger (102% font size). This way the user will select easier the items. I didn't have time to change the way the submenu is displayed (click instead of mouse over), but it's clear for me the way it will look like and I really think that this proposal is clean and easy to use/understand. Raluca. > > The only advantage of another color set would be a greater space for user to > click/hover (we can fix that with padding). The disadvantage is that the > look&feel will be broken and also other icons will not correlate actions > done in XWiki (edit, delete, comment, etc) with the corresponding rights. > > If the hover/click and the size of the icons are the only problem :) then is > ok > > Thanks, > Caty > > >> >> Raluca. >> >> > >> > >> > Alex >> > >> > >> > On 06/04/2010 06:54 PM, Ecaterina Valica wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Take a look at Rights 5 >> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights5Space >> >> >> >> Added: >> >> * information regarding the advanced rights (inherits, overrides) >> >> * icons built together as a whole >> >> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/icons.png >> >> * representation of "advanced rights" with the same abstract icon, but >> with >> >> different color (no text; we can debate this) >> >> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/color.png >> >> * inheritance arrow married with +/- >> >> >> >> IMGs (in case of browser problem) >> >> - collapsed: >> >> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5Space.png >> >> - expanded: >> >> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Rights5Space/rights5SpaceExpanded.png >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:42, Denis Gervalle <d...@softec.lu> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Caty, >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:09, Ecaterina Valica <vali...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hi Denis, >> >>>> >> >>>> I want to thank you again for all the help you are giving :P >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> This is pleasure to participate especially because you provide really >> good >> >>> proposals. >> >>> I would also like to see others participating, currently the discussion >> is >> >>> becoming to much bilateral IMO. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Please take a look at a proposal for "V3 and my 3)" version with >> elements >> >>>> from Rights2 :) >> >>>> >> >>> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Proposal >> >>>> and in "action" >> >>>> >> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Rights43Space >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Really nice job ! I really appreciate. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> The prototype is not reflecting the "desired" interaction: both >> inherited >> >>>> info and rights change appear on hover (right icon and arrow), instead >> of >> >>>> hover | click. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> I am not sure what are really your intend. I think that the big >> tooltips >> >>> describing the rights should be the only tooltips, and should be show >> on >> >>> hover only after a small timeout (like the yellow one currently). >> Clicking >> >>> any where on the +/- icon or v would then open the menu. >> >>> Is it what you try ? >> >>> >> >>> >> >> yes, on hover show the tooltip, on click show the menu. >> >> >> >> >> > <snip> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > devs mailing list >> > d...@xwiki.org >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> d...@xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > d...@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
