On the issue Olivier also did another proposal P7 http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13070 so make sure you read also that.
Guillaume would be possible to have a visual proposal for the partial changes you mentioned you would like to do? Ideally we should have like 2 (max 3) images in order to vote on them or reiterate until everybody is happy. Thanks, Caty On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau < guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > OK so now it's a bit more than only re-organizing the drawer's entries. > Your proposition is also about removing some elements, and renaming some of > them. We are more closer to your original issue ( > http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XE-1582). > > It's a big change that we usually don't do at the end of a development > cycle. > > Concerning its content, and more precisely the renaming of the items, I > would love to read the opinion of committers. For example, I agree it looks > more natural to see "All users" than "User Index" or "All other wikis" > instead of "Wiki Index" in a subwiki, but it breaks the famous consistency > principle we tend to have. > > I also like "Settings" instead of "Administration", but we could even go > deeper and say "Settings of the wiki" to not confuse with "User Settings". > > You also propose a "Recent Changes" item, which could lead to the Activity > Stream. Should I open a new discussion about this? > > For now, I could change the order of the elements, and introduce 2 > categories: "items concerning the current wiki", and "items concerning the > main wiki". It's already a breakage from the UI Extension API point of > view. > > Thanks, > > 2016-11-03 10:01 GMT+01:00 Guillaume Delhumeau < > guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com>: > > > Yes Miroslav, we have received your message. Thanks you :) > > > > 2016-11-02 23:13 GMT+01:00 Miroslav Galajda <miroslav.gala...@gmail.com > >: > > > >> Hi, I've sent an email with preference for P5, last week. Have you > >> received > >> it? > >> > >> P5 seems to me clean and logical to work with. > >> > >> Thanks > >> Mirec > >> > >> On 2 November 2016 at 11:23, Guillaume Delhumeau < > >> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com> wrote: > >> > >> > Hello. > >> > > >> > Thanks for your comments. Any other? > >> > > >> > Guillaume > >> > > >> > 2016-10-26 17:03 GMT+02:00 Jan-Paul Kleijn <em...@biggee.nl>: > >> > > >> > > P5 is also my favorite because it draws more attention to the > content. > >> > > It's the more grown-up version. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Op 26-10-2016 om 10:28 schreef Guillaume Delhumeau: > >> > > > >> > > No opinion? > >> > >> > >> > >> 2016-10-24 18:09 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau < > >> > >> guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com>: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hello dear developers and XWiki users. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I would you to take a look at the issue > >> http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/ > >> > >>> XWIKI-13070. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> The problem is that the current order (that I have implemented > >> based on > >> > >>> my > >> > >>> intuition) seems to not be clear for our users. The main point is > >> that > >> > >>> the > >> > >>> menu mixes up global items (Home wiki, Wiki Index) and local ones > >> > >>> (Administer Wiki, Page Index, Delete wiki, etc...). > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Caty and Oliver have made some proposals that you could find in > the > >> > >>> issue. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> They are called P1, P2, P3, P4 and P5. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I propose you to express your preferences so we can implement it > >> based > >> > on > >> > >>> a consensus. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Here are mine: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> P1: There is a logical order and separation between item. However, > >> it > >> > >>> seems the more used actions (Wiki Index, Page Index) are less > >> visible > >> > >>> than > >> > >>> some other (Delete Wiki, Create Wiki...) > >> > >>> > >> > >>> P2: The order and the separation are logic. The "delete wiki" > >> action is > >> > >>> still very visible but all other items are good. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> P3: Same than P2. Except that having "Wiki Index" along with > "User, > >> > Page > >> > >>> and Application Index" mixes up local and global items. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> P4: Why not, but maybe the 3 first actions should be placed after > >> the > >> > >>> other ones, since they would be less used. Same remark about the > >> mixing > >> > >>> of > >> > >>> local and global items. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> P5: A clear distinction between local and global scope. More used > >> items > >> > >>> are located first. This is my favorite one. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> So +1 for P5, +0 for the other options so far. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Now, what about you? > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Thanks, > >> > >>> Guillaume > >> > >>> > >> > >>> PS: I send this message to both devs and users mailing lists, > >> because I > >> > >>> think users are directly concerned by this topic. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> -- > >> > >>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >> > >>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >> > >>> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > users mailing list > >> > > users@xwiki.org > >> > > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > >> > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > >> > Committer on the XWiki.org project > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > users mailing list > >> > users@xwiki.org > >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> users mailing list > >> users@xwiki.org > >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > > Committer on the XWiki.org project > > > > > > -- > Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhum...@xwiki.com) > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS > Committer on the XWiki.org project > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list > users@xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users > _______________________________________________ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
