I cannot make clear to you what I mean. I will send no letter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, 2002-11-03 21:32 Subject: Re: [USMA:23077] Re: Letter to the Editor
> 2002-11-03 > > Your letter at the end of this post clearly states ...........70 m.p.h. = > 110 km/h; 60 m.p.h. = 95 km/h and 30 m.p.h. = 50 km/h;....... > > I see no revision to show that 60 murphys is equal to 100 km/h. I still see > 95 km/h. Where is the revision you are speaking of? I see none. > > ............A speed of 95 km/h in Ireland would just apply to visitors > until the change comes100 km/h for 60 mph today would expose them to > prosecution............... > > How many visitors bring their own car to Ireland? Wouldn't it be more > economical to rent one there? Plus, what about the visitor who does not > have a 95 mark on his speedometer? What does that person do? And only a > real stinker of a cop would make an issue of 100 km/h vs. 95 km/h, > especially when a majority of motorists who do speed, speed by much faster. > The cops would worry more about those going 110 or 120 or even higher km/h. > > I just don't like to present ideas that will in the long term hurt our > efforts. We want to present rational usage as much as possible. > > John > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, 2002-11-03 14:48 > Subject: [USMA:23077] Re: Letter to the Editor > > > > John, > > > > I have done just that in the revised letter. Propose tens of kilometers. > You > > have not read that version; please, read it; I have left it down this > > message page. A speed of 95 km/h in Ireland would just apply to visitors > > until the change comes. AFTER METRICATION that speed becomes 90 or 100 > km/h, > > according to road conditions. 100 km/h for 60 mph today would expose them > to > > prosecution. > > > > Han > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "U.S. Metric Association" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Sunday, 2002-11-03 15:53 > > Subject: Re: [USMA:23068] Re: Letter to the Editor > > > > > > > 2002-11-03 > > > > > > All you want to do is suggest the use of rounded numbers that end in a > > zero. Let the local authorities decide what speed is best for certain > roads. > > The people will accept the change more easily and quicker if the numbers > are > > neat and rational. > > > > > You want too make suggestions that make SI look better than FFU. If you > > don't, the public will hate SI because they will have to deal with funny > > numbers. The BWMA would love to see irrational metric values. Then they > > have an argument for saying that FFU is more user friendly. > > > > > > Canada, and I'm sure the other countries did the same, changed their 60 > > murphys to 100 km/h. There were no problems. NOBODY has a speed limit of > > 95 km/h. Absolutely no body. Every place I have been to the speed limits > > always end in zero. Use the KISS principle: Keep It Simple! > > > > John > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, 2002-11-02 16:47 > > > Subject: [USMA:23068] Re: Letter to the Editor > > > > > > > > > > I have not sent it yet; I will change it a bit. But as long as the > speed > > limit is 60 mph it is risky to advice people to drive 100 km/h; that is > > simply against the law. More than 2 km/h too fast often is enough. When > the > > change comes, then 60 mph should become 100 km/h. The present speed limit > of > > 40 mph has the same problem. 70 km/h is too fast and leads to prosecution > if > > stopped by the police, or Gardai in Ireland. The new limit could indeed > > become 70 km/h. I will send it as follows (see below), > > > > Han > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, 2002-11-02 21:04 > > Subject: [USMA:23062] Re: Letter to the Editor > > > > 2002-11-02 > > Han, > > I hope you did not send this yet! > > > > The recommended speed for 60 murphys is 100 km/h, nor 95 km/h. 100 is a > > nice, neat and rational number. No 65 km/h. Either 60 or 70. Choose > numbers > > that end in zeros. No fives. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, 2002-11-02 13:16 > > Subject: [USMA:23060] Letter to the Editor > > > > I am going to send this message to the Irish Times. > > > > Madam, > > > > I saw in Saturday's Irish Times the following recapitulation of speed > limits > > in Ireland: "And just for the record, the speed limit is 70 m.p.h. or 112 > > k.p.h. on motorways and dual carriage ways; 60 m.p.h. or 96 k.p.h. on > urban > > stretches and outside built-up areas and 30 m.p.h. or 48 k.p.h. in > built-up > > areas." > > No visitor's car with a metric speedometer can hold such funny speeds. > > Sometimes metric values like that are used to ridicule the metric system. > > Until metrication makes its debut a sensible conversion is: 70 m.p.h. = > 110 > > km/h; 60 m.p.h. = 95 km/h and 30 m.p.h. = 50 km/h; the future Irish > limits > > should be rounded to tens of kilometres, just as they are now in tens of > > miles. These, for instance, are the Dutch speed limits in kilometres per > > hour: 30 in residential streets, 50 on through roads in built up areas, 80 > > on country roads, 100 to 120 km/h on motorways, the latter according to > > motorway conditions. "Soft" metrication, like 30 m.p.h. becomes 48 km/h, > is > > disastrous. It is to be hoped that metrication will not be used to lower > the > > limits, just to make them sensible. In fact, 50 km/h in residential > streets > > is too high; it should be 30 km/h, so that many of the old '30' signs can > be > > re-used. And on > > splendid through-roads 50 or even 70 km/h (rounded up from the old 40 > > m.p.h.) is too low. Make it 80 or 90 km/h and up to 120 km/h on the > emerging > > Irish motorway network. Another article on this metrication issue in > > Friday's IT, used the word 'confusion'. I would not think so. Metric road > > distance signs have been present in Ireland for many years and many Irish > > motorists drive in metric mainlaind Europe. Almost all Irish cars have a > > double speedometer, and when metric comes in all new cars will have > > metric-only speedometers. In the contrary, it will end the confusion that > > now reigns on Irish roads, as in a sense, it will be a return to one > system > > of measurements, only it will be metric and not Imperial. And last, but > not > > least, I have to mention that the international and correct symbol for > > kilometre per hour is km/h; k.p.h. is deprecated. > > > > Yours faithfully, > > > > Han Maenen > > Nijmegen, The Netherlands > > > > > > >
