Dear Han, John, and All,

John's right. All of the Australian signs were changed to values with values
rounded to have 0 (zero) endings. It worked fine for us.

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin CAMS
Geelong, Australia

on 2002-11-04 01.53, kilopascal at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 2002-11-03
> 
> All you want to do is suggest the use of rounded numbers that end in a zero.
> Let the local authorities decide what speed is best for certain roads.  The
> people will accept the change more easily and quicker if the numbers are
> neat and rational.
> 
> You want too make suggestions that make SI look better than FFU.  If you
> don't, the public will hate SI because they will have to deal with funny
> numbers.  The BWMA would love to see irrational metric values.  Then they
> have an argument for saying that FFU is more user friendly.
> 
> Canada, and I'm sure the other countries did the same, changed their 60
> murphys to 100 km/h.  There were no problems.  NOBODY has a speed limit of
> 95 km/h.  Absolutely no body.  Every place I have been to the speed limits
> always end in zero.  Use the KISS principle:  Keep It Simple!
> 
> John
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, 2002-11-02 16:47
> Subject: [USMA:23068] Re: Letter to the Editor
> 
> 
>> I have not sent it yet; I will change it a bit. But as long as the speed
>> limit is 60 mph it is risky to advice people to drive 100 km/h; that is
>> simply against the law. More than 2 km/h too fast often is enough. When
> the
>> change comes, then 60 mph should become 100 km/h. The present speed limit
> of
>> 40 mph has the same problem. 70 km/h is too fast and leads to prosecution
> if
>> stopped by the police, or Gardai in Ireland. The new limit could  indeed
>> become 70 km/h. I will send it as follows (see below),
>> 
>> Han
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "kilopascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, 2002-11-02 21:04
>> Subject: [USMA:23062] Re: Letter to the Editor
>> 
>> 
>> 2002-11-02
>> 
>> Han,
>> 
>>  I hope you did not send this yet!
>> 
>>  The recommended speed for 60 murphys is 100 km/h, nor 95 km/h. 100 is a
>> nice, neat and rational number.  No 65 km/h. Either 60 or 70. Choose
> numbers
>> that end in zeros. No fives.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Han Maenen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Saturday, 2002-11-02 13:16
>> Subject: [USMA:23060] Letter to the Editor
>> 
>>  I am going  to send this message to the Irish Times.
>> 
>> Madam,
>> 
>> I saw in Saturday's Irish Times the following recapitulation of speed
> limits
>> in Ireland: "And just for the record, the speed limit is 70 m.p.h. or 112
>> k.p.h. on motorways and dual carriage ways; 60 m.p.h. or 96 k.p.h. on
> urban
>> stretches and outside built-up areas and 30 m.p.h. or 48 k.p.h. in
> built-up
>> areas."
>> No visitor's car with a metric speedometer can hold such funny speeds.
>> Sometimes metric values like that are used to ridicule the metric system.
>> Until metrication makes its debut a sensible conversion is: 70 m.p.h. =
> 110
>> km/h; 60 m.p.h. = 95 km/h and 30 m.p.h. = 50 km/h;  the future Irish
> limits
>> should be rounded to tens of kilometres, just as they are now in tens of
>> miles. These, for instance, are the Dutch speed limits in kilometres per
>> hour: 30 in residential streets, 50 on through roads in built up areas, 80
>> on country roads, 100 to 120 km/h on motorways, the latter according  to
>> motorway conditions. "Soft" metrication, like 30 m.p.h. becomes 48 km/h,
> is
>> disastrous. It is to be hoped that metrication will not be used to lower
> the
>> limits, just to  make them sensible. In fact, 50 km/h in residential
> streets
>> is too high; it should be 30 km/h, so that many of the old '30' signs can
> be
>> re-used. And on
>> splendid through-roads 50 or even 70 km/h (rounded up from the old 40
>> m.p.h.) is too low. Make it 80 or 90 km/h and up to 120 km/h on the
> emerging
>> Irish motorway  network. Another article on this metrication issue in
>> Friday's IT, used the word 'confusion'. I would not think so. Metric road
>> distance signs have been present in Ireland for many years and many Irish
>> motorists drive in metric mainlaind Europe. Almost all Irish cars have a
>> double speedometer, and when metric comes in all new cars will have
>> metric-only speedometers. In the contrary, it will end the confusion that
>> now reigns on Irish roads, as in a sense, it will be a return to one
> system
>> of measurements, only it will be metric and not Imperial. And last, but
> not
>> least, I have to mention that the international and correct symbol for
>> kilometre per hour is km/h; k.p.h. is deprecated.
>> 
>> Yours faithfully,
>> 
>> Han Maenen
>> Nijmegen,
>> The Netherlands
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
> 

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