Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, Carleton, but iVDR's own web site
refers to them as 2.5" and 1.8", although the case specs are in mm.

See http://www.ivdr.org/iVDR/ivdr_e.html.

Another example of organizations in metric countries pandering to U.S.
preferences.

The consortium members are Canon Inc., Fujitsu Limited, Hitachi, Ltd.,
Phoenix Technologies K.K., Pioneer Corporation, SANYO Electric Co., Ltd.,
Sharp Corporation, and Victor Company of Japan. See
http://www.ivdr.org/consortium/consortium_e.html.

Bill Potts, CMS
Roseville, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]



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Initial post:

A consortium called iVDR is said to be readying tiny 1.8" and 2.5" hard
drives, with removable cartridges, for introduction at the 2003 Consumer
Electronics Show in Las Vegas. While the disks look like a cool idea, it
appears that they may be ...

My response:

What in God's name is this 1.8 "inch" and 2.5 "inch" garbage? These are all
metric companies in metric countries. Without doubt these new devices are in
hard metric sizes. So why are they using antique units to describe their
size? Is this another case of dumbing things down for Americans? The time
has long past to ditch the entire archaic and obsolete inch-pound
measurement system -- and any retrograde reference to it.

A response to that:

I don't think they're dumbing anything down for Americans, it's just that
some things are still traditionally measured in inches. In Europe we still
have inch sizes for car, motorcycle and bicycle wheels. In Germany at least,
plumbing pipes and fittings are still done in inches, and we use 3,5" and
not 8,89cm floppies. A ruler here is still called a Zollstock (an "inch
stick"),one half kilo a Pfund (pound) and the international standard for
sea-going vessels is sea miles, so the metric system hasn't completely taken
over everything.

My further response:

The "3.5 inch" diskette is a myth. The Japanese designed it in the 1980's as
exactly 90 mm. Calling it "8.89 cm" is a clumsy back-conversion from the
inch description. IBM, one of the first users of this device, dumbed down
the size description for the US audience, much as my local grocery chain
dumbs down a 2 liter soda bottle to "67.6 ounces".

Now, the old 5.5 inch diskette that really WAS a floppy (bendable, not
stiff) -- that WAS 5.5 inches. We know where that format has gone. With one
of the removable disks given an inch size, IBM felt compelled to give the
other the same thing, even when it didn't apply.

The antique system still used by some in the USA should have been tossed in
the dustbin of history long ago.

Carleton MacDonald

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