on 2/11/03 5:34 AM, Mighty Chimp at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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> Can you
> give me some input on how much Australia is metric?  Not from an official
> perspective, but from your personal experience.  How much imperial/FFU
> lingers on and where?  Where does industry stand?

Dear Euric,

My assessment of the current situation in Australia is as follows:

I obtained this list of 115 occupations from a government source and applied
my own assessment of their current metrication status. Please note that this
is my assessment of length measurements only. The whole of Australia adopted
mass measures in grams, kilograms, and tonnes quite rapidly and pounds are
now only rarely heard. Australians also came to terms with millilitres,
litres, and cubic metres quite quickly, too, and pints and gallons are
rarely referred to, Similarly, degrees Celsius were adopted rapidly and
Fahrenheit degrees are now only discussed when the temperature reaches or
exceeds 38 �C.

millimetres � 89 occupations

These are the trades, professions and activities that chose millimetres as
their small unit. Metric conversion in these activities was smooth, rapid
and quiet.

mm            Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (Avionics)
mm            Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (Mechanical)
mm            Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (Structures)
mm            Automotive Electrician
mm             Binder and Finisher
mm            Blacksmith
mm            Boat Builder and Repairer
mm            Bricklayer
mm            Broadcast Transmitter Operator
mm            Business Machine Mechanic
mm            Cabinetmaker
mm            Cable Jointer
mm            Carpenter
mm            Carpenter and Joiner
mm            Communications Linesperson
mm            Computing Support Technician
mm            Dental Technician
mm            Drainer
mm            Electrical Engineering Technician
mm            Electrical Powerline Tradesperson
mm            Electrician (Special Class)
mm            Electronic Engineering Technician
mm            Electronic Equipment Tradesperson
mm            Electronic Instrument Tradesperson (Special Class)
mm            Electroplater
mm            Engraver
mm            Farrier
mm            Fibrous Plasterer
mm            Fitter
mm           Flat Glass Tradesperson
mm           Floor Finisher
mm            Furniture Finisher
mm            Furniture Upholsterer
mm            Gasfitter
mm            Gem Cuter and Polisher
mm            General Communications Tradesperson
mm            General Electrician
mm            General Electronic Instrument Tradesperson
mm            General Fabrication Engineering Tradesperson
mm            General Mechanical Engineering Tradesperson
mm            General Plumber
mm            Glass Blower
mm            Graphic Pre-Press Tradesperson
mm            Greenkeeper
mm            Gunsmith
mm            Jeweller
mm            Joiner
mm            Leather Goods Maker
mm            Lift Mechanic
mm            Locksmith
mm            Mechanical Engineering Technician
mm            Mechanical Services and Airconditioning Plumber
mm            Medical Grade Shoemaker
mm            Metal Casting Tradesperson
mm            Metal Fabricator (Boilermaker)
mm            Metal Machinist (First Class)
mm            Metal Polisher
mm            Motor Mechanic
mm            Optical Mechanic
mm            Painter and Decorator
mm            Panel Beater
mm            Patternmaker-Grader (Clothing)
mm            Piano maker
mm            Piano Tuner
mm            Precision Instrument Maker and Repairer
mm            Pressure Welder
mm            Printing Machinist
mm            Refrigeration and Airconditioning Mechanic
mm            Roof Plumber
mm            Roof Slater and Tiler
mm            Saw Maker and Repairer
mm            Sheetmetal Worker (First Class)
mm            Shipwright
mm            Shoemaker
mm            Signwriter
mm            Solid Plasterer
mm            Stonemason
mm            Textile, Clothing or Footwear Mechanic
mm            Toolmaker
mm            Upholsterers and Bedding Tradespersons
mm            Vehicle Body Maker
mm            Vehicle Painter
mm            Vehicle Trimmer
mm            Wall and Floor Tiler
mm            Watch and Clock Maker and Repairer
mm            Welder (First Class)
mm            Wood Tradesperson
mm            Wood Turner

Centimetres and inches � 13 occupations

Those who chose to use centimetres as their small unit are still � after 33
years � struggling to come to terms with metric measures. These people are
noticeable because of their loud screaming about the difficulty of metric
conversion. Characteristically, these folk are constantly doing conversions
from old units to metric units and vice versa.

cm and inches            Apparel Cutter
cm and inches            Baker
cm and inches            Chef
cm and inches            Chef � Head Chef
cm and inches            Cook
cm and inches            Dressmaker
cm and inches            General Clothing Tradesperson
cm and inches            Pastry Cook
cm and inches            Picture Framer
cm and inches            Sail Maker
cm and inches            Screen Printer
cm and inches            Small Offset Printer
cm and inches            Tailor

centimetres, feet and inches � 6 occupations

See the remarks for centimetres and inches

cm, feet and inches       Canvas Goods Maker
cm, feet and inches       General Gardener
cm, feet and inches       Head Gardener
cm, feet and inches        Landscape Gardener
cm, feet and inches        Nurseryperson
cm, feet and inches        Tree Surgeon

Unknown � 7 occupations

I was unable to assess these occupations because I am unfamiliar with them.
I suspect that people in these trades don't do much in the way of length
measures. However, as I noted previously, they all measure mass in grams,
kilograms, and tonnes and volume in millilitres, litres, and cubic metres.

?            Butcher
?            Buttermaker or Cheesemaker
?            Confectioner
?            Hairdresser
?            Smallgoods Maker
?            Supervisor, Hairdressers
?            Supervisor, Meat Tradespersons

 > It's curious that in an international engineering meeting, English is the
> accepted language.  What's not accepted,  however,  are the units of measure
> on the equipment under discussion.   Engineering units still cause
> difficulties in the global interchange of parts and data.

Measuring units used in engineering only cause problems when conversions are
involved. This happens when someone, somewhere, wants to use dual units.

> All countries are now in various degrees of transitions to the metric
> system.  Most of the  EU countries are nearly completely metric

Probably about 99.9�% in Europe, The only reference to old units that I hear
out of Europe is when they are referring to an historic unit � such as the
pond or the akker. However these old units now have metric definitions �
such as 500 grams or 4000 square metres.

> whereas
> other countries such as  Canada,  India and Australia are about half way.

My guess is that Australia, New Zealand, and South Africa are about 95�%
metric. The only remaining issue is for the folk who chose to use
centimetres as their small unit. They are still struggling with metrication
and THEY'RE A NOISY LOT!

> In comparison, the USA  may be about 20% metric.

I have seen estimates made by others on this list that the USA is now about
40�% metric. Perhaps others would care to comment.

> Many of our products and
> industries have been metric for quite some time, while automotive companies
> have been in this transition process for more than 20 years.

In the 1970s, the world automotive industry developed the 'world car
concept' that required parts to be interchangeable between all countries.
This meant that Ford (for example) could source brake parts from Australia
and then use them in cars made in the USA, in England, or in Europe. For
this to happen, the same measuring units had to be used by everyone. My
understanding is that the world automotive industry is 100�% metric and has
been since the late 1970s.

> Changing to the metric system presents an opportunity for companies to unify
> metric standards worldwide and encourage the use of more interchangeable
> parts.  These can be mass produced in fewer variety  which  benefit
> consumers and producers alike.

Many companies made a lot of money out of metrication, but they tend not to
trumpet this too loudly as they also argued before metrication that, 'It
will be too costly � and we will probably need a government subsidy!'

> To make more parts interchangeable, other factors must also be
> interchangeable, such as the nominal size of a part, its tolerances,  and
> material quality.  A bolt,  for example,  must have the same physical size,
> tolerance,  and strength class.  Steel plates are interchangeable when the
> thickness,  size,  tolerance, and the steel quality are sufficiently close
> to swapping one manufacturer to another.  More importantly,  purchasing
> interchangeable parts and components around the world provides an
> opportunity to reduce manufacturing costs.

There is a story about General Motors who set up a committee to monitor
their metrication costs with a view of requesting government support for
their metrication program. They closed it down after a short time when they
realised that rationalisation of their inventory, alone, was saving them
more money than the 'metric costs committee' was costing to run.

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin LCAMS
Geelong, Australia

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