That leads me to two simple questions. Have you seen any of his movies, Jim?
Have you read any of his books?

I've seen two and read two. If I hadn't, I couldn't and wouldn't comment on
any of them.

I'll leave it at that, before Don Hillger calls me on continuing with an
off-topic topic.

Bill Potts, CMS
Roseville, CA
http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]


>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Behalf Of Jim Elwell
>Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 06:59
>To: U.S. Metric Association
>Subject: [USMA:31173] Re: Drudge -- really, really, really off topic!
>
>
>BIll posted his off-topic opinion, so I'll post mine: Michael
>Moore is a lying, hypocritcal sleaze. You can't believe squat
>about anything in his movies, as he makes things up out of whole
>cloth, grossly distorts what people tell him to suit his own ends,
>juxtaposes scenes to imply entirely fictional sequences, etc.
>
>Celsius 41.11 is a well-needed exposition of the plethora of lies
>of Michael Moore.
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>At 21 09 04, 11:17 PM, Bill Potts wrote:
>>This thread is about as off-topic as any can get, so I'll try to limit my
>>postings on it to the following.
>>
>>It's pro-Bush thing, along with being an attack on Michael Moore.
>>
>>Moore is quoted out of context. As I remember, his point was a statistical
>>one -- with about 200,000 Americans already dying each year from
>preventable
>>causes, along with the fact that the probability of any one of us
>dying in a
>>terrorist attack is extremely small. Moore wasn't saying we
>shouldn't fight
>>terrorists and try to eliminate them. In fact, one of the points
>he has made
>>is that Iraq was a serious distraction from Afghanistan and the War on
>>Terror generally -- including securing our ports, nuclear power stations,
>>dams, etc., etc. He has also criticized fear mongering.  And, of
>course, the
>>scenes shown in Celsius 41.11 are not from Moore's movie (and at least one
>>looks as if it might have been staged -- possibly during a bona fide
>>demonstration), but the audience is probably meant to assume that
>they are.
>>
>>By the way, he employed a veritable army of fact checkers for Fahrenheit
>>9/11. One can disagree with his opinions (although he does more
>juxtaposing
>>of events than expressions of opinion -- leaving the audience to
>draw their
>>own conclusions and form their own opinions), but his facts are well
>>supported and thoroughly researched. (Those who have seen the
>movie will be
>>well aware of that. Those who haven't seen it really need to do so before
>>forming an opinion about it.)
>>
>>Bill Potts, CMS
>>Roseville, CA
>>http://metric1.org [SI Navigator]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Behalf Of Euric
>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 21:15
>>>To: U.S. Metric Association
>>>Subject: [USMA:31170] Re: Drudge
>>>
>>>
>>>>From the Trailer, they claim 41.11�C is the temperature the brain
>>>begins to
>>>die.  40�C is a very high body temperature and a body temperature
>>>above that
>>>results in eventual death.  Thus the significance of the "41".
>The "0.11"
>>>part is just added to equate it with the 9.11 of the Fahrenheit movie.
>>>
>>>It is humour.  But I'm not sure if it is an attack on Michael Moore or
>>>George Bush.  It is a shame that so many Americans believe that
>the threat
>>>of terrorism is external in origin, instead of  being the brain child of
>>>certain diabolic groups operating within national organisations
>of the US.
>>>Wolves in sheep's clothing.  The goal of the attacks of 9.11 were to
>>>frighten us into surrendering our freedoms for "safety and
>>>security" and the
>>>goal of the Patriot Acts is to nullify the Constitution.  If
>>>Hitler was able
>>>to deceive the Germans into backing him, I see no reason why the
>Bush club
>>>wouldn't do the same.  If it worked once, it will work again and
>again.  I
>>>wonder if metric will be used in the FEMA concentration camps.
>>>
>>>Anyway, I did a Google search:
>>>
>>>http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=%22Celsi
>>>us+41%2E11%22
>>>
>>>Euric
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Nat Hager III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "U.S. Metric Association" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 2004-09-21 21:51
>>>Subject: [USMA:31168] Drudge
>>>
>>>
>>>> Drifting off to sleep, and I'm not sure I understand this little ad on
>>>> Drudge right now.  Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Nat
>>>>
>>>> drudge.jpg
>>>>
>
>Jim Elwell
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