I am not under that impression, Mike. Do you have anything at hand to support that belief?

I would suppose that there are a number of different models and mechanisms out there. So, likely, there is no one single answer.

Jim

Mike Millet wrote:
James,

I was under the impression that all pumps in the US already pumped in liters and ticked up by the gallon. Either that or that it was only a flip of a switch type of thing.

That could be for newer pumps though.

Mike

On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:16 AM, James Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    Since the federal government does not control this and since most
    states probably allow selling motor fuel by the liter, this will
    happen the same way that 2 L bottles of pop became prevalent -- by
    vendor initiative and encouragement.

    The availability of equipment to modify pumps is necessary, which is
    why I wrote to the Petroleum Equipment Institute president, as
    reported here by me a few weeks ago. The PEI can also help with
    encouragement, if they choose to.

    Jim

    STANLEY DOORE wrote:

        I understand; however, conversion to liters for gasoline
        dispensing nationwide simultaneous is necessary to provide
        uniformity among the public.
           Stan doore
----- Original Message -----
           *From:* Phil Chernack <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
           *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
           *Cc:* U.S. Metric Association <mailto:[email protected]
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           *Sent:* Monday, June 02, 2008 8:37 AM
           *Subject:* Re: [USMA:41013] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the
           liter in the US

           Once again, the FPLA has nothing to do with the sale of
        gasoline.    Gasoline is regulated at the state level. States
        are free at this
           time to allow metric-only sales of gas but will not do so because
           they perceive that the public won't accept it.  Even if the
        FPLA is
           amended and many products show up metric only, until the auto
           manufacutrers, marketers and the National Highway Transportation
           Safety Administration (the body that dictates car saftey
           regulations) get on board we will not see any sustainable visible
           metric measures in cars (speedometer, fuel capacity, fuel
        economy.)

           On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:17 AM, STANLEY DOORE
           <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>
        wrote:

               When the Feds pass  metric-only legislation for labeling
               products, then the gas station industry could sell
        gasoline by
               the liter throughout the US.  This move would be a visible,
               positive and useful path to selling many other products in SI
               Units and would include encouragement to change distance road
               signs  to the SI.  I already have my navigation system set to
               metric, and it's much more useful that way.
               Stan Doore
----- Original Message -----
                   *From:* Mike Millet <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
                   *To:* U.S. Metric Association
        <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
                   *Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2008 5:16 PM
                   *Subject:* [USMA:41009] Re: Legality of selling fuel
        by the
                   liter in the US

                   Good to know.  I just wish that the gas station owner's
                   first impulse was to sell by the liter rather than
        selling
                   by the old outdated half gallon :). Maybe with time
        we can
                   persuade them otherwise.


                   Mike

                   On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM, James Frysinger
                   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote:

                       Sales of motor fuel are regulated by states. In the
                       "Interpretations and Guidelines" section of NCWM
                       Handbook 130 metric pricing and dispensing rules are
                       given on pp 242 and 243. Those DO call for
        showing the
                       price per gallon whenever fuel is sold by the
        liter, as
                       well as the price per liter. Individual states may
                       follow that or form their own rules. I gave a
        link to a
                       downloadable copy of Handbook 130 earlier.

                       Jim

                       Nat Hager III wrote:

                           I would think it would be legal in every state,
                           considering how far gas-by-the-liter got in the
                           early eighties.  I know they passed the
        legislation
                           then, as so many stations were doing it, and
        I doubt
                           if they ever took it back.

                                               I think Hawaii had
        mandatory gas-by-the-liter for
                           several years.

                                               Nat

                                               *From:*
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                           [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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                           <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>] *On Behalf Of
                           *Phil Chernack
                           *Sent:* Friday, 2008 May 30 11:56
                           *To:* U.S. Metric Association
                           *Subject:* [USMA:41004] Re: Legality of
        selling fuel
                           by the liter in the US

                                               I can't say for every
        state but in New Jersey it is
                           legal to sell and dispense by the liter provided
                           both the price per liter and price per gallon are
                           displayed.

                           On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Mike Millet
                           <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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                           <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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                           <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote:

                           Just curious here , as I've been readying a lot
                           about how some older gas pumps have started
        pricing
                           by the half gallon instead of the gallon. Is it
                           actually legal in the US to sell gas by the
        liter?
                           And if so, does it fall under state or federal
                           regulation?

                           All the news articles I've read so far have said
                           that stations just have to apply with the state
                           regulator to sell by the half gallon.  A lot of
                           people in the comments sections on the  different
                           articles seem to be in favor of switching the
        price
                           to liters nationally but so far there haven't
        been
                           any responses from industry or gas stations.

                           Mike

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