No, nothing hard . I've just heard it said by a couple people who worked in the gas industry. I would tend to think that newer pumps would certainly be easier to convert than older ones, maybe as easy as setting the internal computer to count in liters and then taping over the gallon sign on the pump and writing liters over it .
Mike On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 12:03 PM, James Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am not under that impression, Mike. Do you have anything at hand to > support that belief? > > I would suppose that there are a number of different models and mechanisms > out there. So, likely, there is no one single answer. > > Jim > > Mike Millet wrote: > >> James, >> >> I was under the impression that all pumps in the US already pumped in >> liters and ticked up by the gallon. Either that or that it was only a flip >> of a switch type of thing. >> >> That could be for newer pumps though. >> >> Mike >> >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:16 AM, James Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> Since the federal government does not control this and since most >> states probably allow selling motor fuel by the liter, this will >> happen the same way that 2 L bottles of pop became prevalent -- by >> vendor initiative and encouragement. >> >> The availability of equipment to modify pumps is necessary, which is >> why I wrote to the Petroleum Equipment Institute president, as >> reported here by me a few weeks ago. The PEI can also help with >> encouragement, if they choose to. >> >> Jim >> >> STANLEY DOORE wrote: >> >> I understand; however, conversion to liters for gasoline >> dispensing nationwide simultaneous is necessary to provide >> uniformity among the public. >> Stan doore >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Phil Chernack <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> *Cc:* U.S. Metric Association <mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Sent:* Monday, June 02, 2008 8:37 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [USMA:41013] Re: Legality of selling fuel by the >> liter in the US >> >> Once again, the FPLA has nothing to do with the sale of >> gasoline. Gasoline is regulated at the state level. States >> are free at this >> time to allow metric-only sales of gas but will not do so >> because >> they perceive that the public won't accept it. Even if the >> FPLA is >> amended and many products show up metric only, until the auto >> manufacutrers, marketers and the National Highway Transportation >> Safety Administration (the body that dictates car saftey >> regulations) get on board we will not see any sustainable >> visible >> metric measures in cars (speedometer, fuel capacity, fuel >> economy.) >> >> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 1:17 AM, STANLEY DOORE >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> >> wrote: >> >> When the Feds pass metric-only legislation for labeling >> products, then the gas station industry could sell >> gasoline by >> the liter throughout the US. This move would be a visible, >> positive and useful path to selling many other products in >> SI >> Units and would include encouragement to change distance >> road >> signs to the SI. I already have my navigation system set >> to >> metric, and it's much more useful that way. >> Stan Doore >> ----- Original Message >> ----- >> *From:* Mike Millet <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> *To:* U.S. Metric Association >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> *Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2008 5:16 PM >> *Subject:* [USMA:41009] Re: Legality of selling fuel >> by the >> liter in the US >> >> Good to know. I just wish that the gas station owner's >> first impulse was to sell by the liter rather than >> selling >> by the old outdated half gallon :). Maybe with time >> we can >> persuade them otherwise. >> >> >> Mike >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:54 AM, James Frysinger >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: >> >> Sales of motor fuel are regulated by states. In the >> "Interpretations and Guidelines" section of NCWM >> Handbook 130 metric pricing and dispensing rules are >> given on pp 242 and 243. Those DO call for >> showing the >> price per gallon whenever fuel is sold by the >> liter, as >> well as the price per liter. Individual states may >> follow that or form their own rules. I gave a >> link to a >> downloadable copy of Handbook 130 earlier. >> >> Jim >> >> Nat Hager III wrote: >> >> I would think it would be legal in every state, >> considering how far gas-by-the-liter got in the >> early eighties. I know they passed the >> legislation >> then, as so many stations were doing it, and >> I doubt >> if they ever took it back. >> >> I think Hawaii had >> mandatory gas-by-the-liter for >> several years. >> >> Nat >> >> *From:* >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>] *On Behalf Of >> *Phil Chernack >> *Sent:* Friday, 2008 May 30 11:56 >> *To:* U.S. Metric Association >> *Subject:* [USMA:41004] Re: Legality of >> selling fuel >> by the liter in the US >> >> I can't say for every >> state but in New Jersey it is >> legal to sell and dispense by the liter provided >> both the price per liter and price per gallon >> are >> displayed. >> >> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Mike Millet >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>> wrote: >> >> Just curious here , as I've been readying a lot >> about how some older gas pumps have started >> pricing >> by the half gallon instead of the gallon. Is it >> actually legal in the US to sell gas by the >> liter? >> And if so, does it fall under state or federal >> regulation? >> >> All the news articles I've read so far have said >> that stations just have to apply with the state >> regulator to sell by the half gallon. A lot of >> people in the comments sections on the >> different >> articles seem to be in favor of switching the >> price >> to liters nationally but so far there haven't >> been >> any responses from industry or gas stations. >> >> Mike >> >> -- "The boy is dangerous, >> they all sense it why can't you?" >> >> (\__/) >> (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny >> into your >> (")_(")signature to help him gain world >> domination. >> >> >> -- James R. Frysinger >> 632 Stony Point Mountain Road >> Doyle, TN 38559-3030 >> >> (H) 931.657.3107 >> (C) 931.212.0267 >> >> >> >> >> -- "The boy is dangerous, they all sense >> it why can't you?" >> >> (\__/) >> (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your >> (")_(")signature to help him gain world domination. >> >> >> -- James R. Frysinger >> 632 Stony Point Mountain Road >> Doyle, TN 38559-3030 >> >> (H) 931.657.3107 >> (C) 931.212.0267 >> >> >> >> >> -- >> "The boy is dangerous, they all sense it why can't you?" >> >> (\__/) >> (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your >> (")_(")signature to help him gain world domination. >> > > -- > James R. Frysinger > 632 Stony Point Mountain Road > Doyle, TN 38559-3030 > > (H) 931.657.3107 > (C) 931.212.0267 > > -- "The boy is dangerous, they all sense it why can't you?" (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into your (")_(")signature to help him gain world domination.
