That's a very good example, Martin.

And they say we 'don't agree' ?!?!   Tcha!



From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:42549] Re: Is there any literature on metrication in the US 
aimed at immigrants?
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:27:59 +0000










Jerry,
 
A typical adverisement for a UK house can be found 
at  http://www.propertyfinder.com/cgi-bin/rsearch?a=o&id=504161763.  
(This is my wife's uncle's house).



From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeremiah 
MacGregor
Sent: 25 January 2009 18:00
To: U.S. Metric 
Association
Subject: [USMA:42547] Re: Is there any literature on 
metrication in the US aimed at immigrants?




Stephen,
 
It seems that you and Martin just have different experiences with 
Realtors.  I'm sure each Realtor does it their own way according to their 
own preference.  It sure would be better if they picked one way and stuck 
with it. 
 
I would prefer a L x W measurement as that would tell me the shape of the 
room as well as the size. 
 
Jerry





From: Stephen Humphreys 
<[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:29:34 
PM
Subject: [USMA:42532] Re: Is 
there any literature on metrication in the US aimed at 
immigrants?



I have seen a more widespread use of 'sq m' come in -and then go.  I 
suspect that there was a moment in time when the threat of law came down on 
these advertisers and then rescinded.

I'm in agreement with you that 
'second houses abroad' tend to be in sq m - I know this from practical 
reasons.

UK houses tend to be sold by individual room W x L than via 
square measures though - again just a historical thing probably.




From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: 
[USMA:42527] Re: Is there any literature on metrication in the US aimed at 
immigrants?
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:19:03 +0000









Steve,
 
You might well have 
noticed that over the past few months an increasing number of estate agents are 
using both square feet and square metres in their advertisements for office 
space (at least they do where I live, which according to my motorway junction 
is 
55.7 km from the middle of London). 
 
Also, today, I saw a 
set of house advertisements that were entirely in metric units – OK, they were 
for Spanish houses, but if Britons insist on using square feet, how will they 
know what they are being sold if they are buying a place in the 
sun?
 




From: 
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen 
Humphreys
Sent: 25 January 2009 16:57
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:42520] Re: Is there any 
literature on metrication in the US aimed at immigrants?
 
An example of 
business use - office space is advertised in sq feet.  Rarely this is 
backed up by bracketed sq m.
Try not to make it look as if the only imperial 
used is in the newspapers and on TV.



From: 
[email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:42501] Re: 
Is there any literature on metrication in the US aimed at immigrants?
Date: 
Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:08:37 +0000

Jerry,
 
As regards units of 
measure, Britain runs an Apartheid system – business and official matters are 
conducted in metric units, but the press barons have instructed their editors 
to 
convert any metric units into imperial units for the benefit of the British 
consumer.  As a result the man-in-the-street is unfamiliar with metric 
units unless he comes across them in his work situation.
 




From: Jeremiah 
MacGregor [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 24 January 2009 15:22
To: Martin Vlietstra; U.S. Metric 
Association
Subject: Re: 
[USMA:42425] Re: Is there any literature on metrication in the US aimed at 
immigrants?
 


Martin,

 

Why would they convert back?  Isn't Britain fully 
metric now like Australia and others?  I thought they converted in the 
1960s, so by now only the real old should still remember older 
units.. 

 

Jerry 

 




From: Martin 
Vlietstra <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]; U.S. 
Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:20:38 
AM
Subject: RE: [USMA:42425] 
Re: Is there any literature on metrication in the US aimed at 
immigrants?

When traveling on the 
Continent, I have noticed that most British travelers tend to repeat the units 
that they have heard or seen – they tend not to convert back to Imperial units. 

 




From: 
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Jeremiah MacGregor
Sent: 24 January 2009 14:28
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:42425] Re: Is there any 
literature on metrication in the US aimed at immigrants?
 


Jason,

 

Do immigrants speak among themselves using metric units 
or do they conform to American practice of using English units even in their 
native languages?  What about the goods they sell in their native 
shops?  Are they sold to each other in metric units or English units (lbs 
of kg)? 

 

Jerry

 




From: Jason 
Darfus <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:05:39 
PM
Subject: [USMA:42355] Re: Is 
there any literature on metrication in the US aimed at 
immigrants?


On 18 Jan 2009, at 09:39, 
Pierre Abbat wrote:
> It appears that the immigrants try to conform to 
what they think is the way we
> do it. Is there any literature aimed at 
people who come here already knowing
> metric, but haven't lived through 
the introduction of metric in the 1970s,
> empowering them to push 
Americans to metricate?
> 
> Pierre

I think you're right in 
suggesting that immigrants, most of whom are inherently from metricated 
countries, feel it's not their place to complain about the way things are done 
here regarding measurement.  The thought of producing some kind of a 
handout to be given to immigrants in the grocery store has occurred to me.  
This could be produced in an attractive way, written in multiple languages, and 
would ask the patrons to request of store management the posting of metric 
pricing signs in the produce, deli, and meats departments for example.  The 
stores would also have to be equipped with switchable scales, as all the 
grocery 
stores I visit use scales that are only capable of displaying "lbs".  I've 
written to the stores I shop at and my request has been summarily ignored, but 
they probably would take notice if they received many similar requests.  
I've even offered to buy a new dual unit hanging scale for a local coffee 
roaster/store if they'd price their beans by the kilo or 100g in addition to 
their lbs.  Again there was no response.
 
 
 



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