It would be easier to simply say that motorway is the UK equivalent of
freeway (but with a somewhat different philosophy with respect to the design
of interchanges, entries, and exits). In Germany, Autobahn is also roughly
equivalent, although much more meticulously designed and maintained than
either a freeway or a motorway (necessary, because of the absence of a speed
limit on the longer and more open stretches).
 
Bill 
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Stephen Humphreys
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 07:27
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:42743] Re: Small item seen on TV


I find it hard to believe that the average American wouldn't know what a
motorway is - or would not be able to perceive what it is.  It's a fast road
for non-learners and vehicles with engines above 50cc (in a nutshell).

All the signs are imperial - but there are markers by the side of the road
which have numbers that tie in with metric amounts.  MArtin has shown one of
this in a graphic.   They are not used by drivers but are used for emergency
purposes.

What makes our roads even more interesting is that 'm' can mean miles (eg
"Services 23 m").



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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:13:11 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:42640] Re: Small item seen on TV
To: [email protected]


Martin,
 
Do road engineers use metric units or English units in the UK?  Why are some
of the signs metric and others in miles?  Is there some logic to this?  Why
not be completely one way or the other?  Are these markers used on all roads
or just some roads?  What type of road is a motorway?
 
Jerry



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From: Martin Vlietstra <[email protected]>
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:15:32 PM
Subject: [USMA:42545] Re: Small item seen on TV



Another weird and wonderful twist about British road signs is that those
that are intended for use by motorists are in miles while small marker posts
on the side of the roads that are intended for use by road engineers are in
kilometers are posted at 100m intervals.  A real mess you might say.
However, with the advent of the mobile telephone, the emergency services
found that very few motorists realized that positions on motorways could be
pinpointed to within 100m by referring to the small marker posts, so new
Driver Location Signs have been introduced, which are posted at 500m
intervals.

 

See http://www.highways.gov.uk/business/14730.aspx for a picture of both.
You will notice that the word "kilometre" does not appear anywhere on that
page, though there is a small mention of the word on the associated FAQ
page.

 

The sign on the off-ramp from the motorway to my home town shows 55.7 in
large letters. 


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Jeremiah MacGregor
Sent: 25 January 2009 17:55
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:42540] Re: Small item seen on TV

 

Mike,

 

>From your description I would understand it to be that metric is used
everywhere but on road signs.  But road signs must be both if Martin said he
was 55.7 km from London or did he just do a conversion?  

 

So people do speak in metric and don't really need to have things dumbed
down as some one put it earlier.  

 

Your comments about pilots in the US explains why the last time I flew in a
plane, the pilot hesitated before saying the temperature.  He must have been
trying to translate it from what was on his screen.  

 

Jerry

 


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From: Michael Payne <[email protected]>
To: U.S.. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 12:29:23 PM
Subject: [USMA:42533] Re: Small item seen on TV

I visit the UK perhaps 6-10 times a year, the people that I know in the UK
tend to talk in meters/metres when referring to a new house size, etc. If
you go into a UK hardware store it's almost all metric, supermarkets have
gram scales, prices might be marked as pence/pound but normally pence/gram,
it's weighed in grams. Fuel is sold in liters, road signs are all in miles
and miles per hour but all road work is done in meters. In general it seems
like a big mess which is why here in the US we need to do it differently,
Australian/New Zealand and South Africa did a very good transition in the
60's and 70's. Most young people in those countries don't know non metric
units.

 

I'm a pilot, when I fly into the UK the atmospheric pressure is in hPa, the
visibility is in meters, the runway length is in meters/feet. Temperature is
Celsius, it's also Celsius for all pilots in the US . Call 703 661 2990 here
in the US to listen to the weather pilots get at my local airport.

 

Mike Payne

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Jeremiah  <mailto:[email protected]> MacGregor 

To: U.S.  <mailto:[email protected]> Metric Association 

Sent: Sunday, 25 January 2009 17:16

Subject: [USMA:42529] Re: Small item seen on TV

 

When you say the UK is bi, do you mean they use both metric and English
equally,?  50 % ?  Or is there more of a leaning towards one or the other?
How are both use equally without causing confusion?  Say for instance in the
medical field.  Would a doctor speak metric and a nurse respond in English?
It must make for some strange communications.

 

Jerry  

 


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From: Stephen Humphreys < [email protected] >
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 11:40:08 AM
Subject: [USMA:42515] Re: Small item seen on TV

Because the UK is not metric (it's 'bi')  and in the case of tyre pressures
there are not laws forcing the use of metric.


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:00:18 -0800
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [USMA:42494] Re: Small item seen on TV
To: [email protected] ; [email protected]

Stephen,

 

I interpreted the statement to mean that bar and kPa were the most common.
It doesn't mean the is no psi, it just means it isn't very common.  If the
UK is metric then why would psi dominate and not kPa?  

 

Jerry

 


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From: Stephen Humphreys < [email protected] >
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:27:02 AM
Subject: [USMA:42494] Re: Small item seen on TV

 Except in the UK (which is part of Europe ) where PSI dominates.
 Maybe you meant "Mainland Europe"


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From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: [USMA:42439] Re: Small item seen on TV
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 15:22:34 +0000

The most common units of measure for tyre pressures in Europe are bars or
kPa.  (100 kPa = 1 bar). 

 


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Jeremiah MacGregor
Sent: 24 January 2009 14:59
To: U.S. Metric Association
Subject: [USMA:42430] Re: Small item seen on TV

 

Harry,

 

Aren't they suppose to be in pascals or something along that line?

 

Jerry

 


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From: Harry Wyeth < [email protected] >
To: U.S. Metric Association <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:39:58 PM
Subject: [USMA:42388] Small item seen on TV

A minor point of interest: on PBS's US broadcast of the BBC World News
tonight, in a piece re the resumption of natural gas to Europe,  there was
"footage" showing close-ups of presssure gauges on pipeline fixtures out in
the snowy fields.  One showed pressure in kg/cm2, and the other in "bar".

HARRY WYETH

 

 


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