<< City & Waterloo line – I checked personally>> This is the one I accepted as using km/h << Croydon tramway – I believe that this is the case – the British Weights and Measures Association website said so>> I think you're right - although Croydon is hardly the underground! << Newcastle & Gateshead tramway – I saw the km/h speed limits when it was first opened in 1980 and was confirmed to me by a railwayman>> You're correct - although I thought we were talking LONDON underground. I've been on that system and I can confirm you're right - and one write up said about it being 'The UK's first and only metric' (possibly out of date or referring to it being overground)
<< London Underground District line – maybe.>> This uses the oldest train stock - so I doubt it. I think the sign you are talking about below confirms that at some points different lines may well interchange - which means I was wrong about no two lines being shared. I guess they must do it for moving carriages around etc. You're probably right about the Channel Tunnel - although as you probably know when they announce the top speed over the tannoy they quote it in French and English - the French version says km/h, I think you know which unit is used for the English version ;-) BTW - the Newcastle line you talk about - they went mental with signs! If you ever need to see metric signs then travel on that track - you;ll get more than your fill!!!! :-D From: vliets...@btinternet.com To: barkatf...@hotmail.com; usma@colostate.edu Subject: RE: [USMA:44663] Re: Bahamas Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:52:24 +0100 Steve, I am aware of a number of lines that are in km/h: City & Waterloo line – I checked personally Croydon tramway – I believe that this is the case – the British Weights and Measures Association website said so Newcastle & Gateshead tramway – I saw the km/h speed limits when it was first opened in 1980 and was confirmed to me by a railwayman London Underground District line – maybe. The London Underground District line terminates at Wimbledon. A speed restriction sign at the start of a sharp bend is quite clearly visible from the main-line – it has two speed restriction roundals – one with the text “30” and the other with the text “LUL 45”. I know that the line is question is used by both underground trains and mainline trains – I have traveled on it using both types of train. Could the “LUL 45” text be “London Underground L??? 45 [km/h]?” You could also visit http://www.davros.org/rail/signalling/articles/central.html. That site suggests that the London Underground Central line speeds are in km/h. I could go on, but I think that I have disproved your point. Oh, and the Channel Tunnel Railway line is totally metric. From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Humphreys Sent: 13 April 2009 23:47 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:44663] Re: Bahamas Martin - I believe that it's only one underground line that has km/h speedos - the rest are like the national train system - ie in mph. It sound odd that one line has km/h - what happens when they change line? Answer is - they don't - so each line could almost have it's own system if it wanted!! ;-) From: vliets...@btinternet.com To: usma@colostate.edu Subject: [USMA:44651] Re: Bahamas Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 15:26:19 +0100 Mike, If you looked carefully you would probably have seen mph as a supplementary measure. The UK vehicles that I have seen that have km/h only are the London Underground, various metro systems (Newcastle, Croydon) and some military vehicles. Most busses and heavy lorries have km/h as the primary unit of measure and mph as a secondary unit. From: owner-u...@colostate.edu [mailto:owner-u...@colostate.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Payne Sent: 13 April 2009 14:49 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:44649] Re: Bahamas Thanks for all the feedback, I will take pictures and be on the lookout for RHD vehicles. On a similar note, I was in the UK a week or so back riding on a local bus, I noticed the speedometer was km/h only! I've noticed that Taxi's (the black London cab), also have km/h only speedometers. Mike Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: John Frewen-Lord To: Michael Payne ; U.S. Metric Association Sent: Monday, 13 April 2009 05:57 Subject: Re: [USMA:44639] Bahamas I believe the Bahamas is not (yet?) officially metric. I am a consultant (rather sporadically) on The Princess Margaret Hospital in Nassau and the Rand Memorial Hospital in Freeport. Everything is imperial, primarily because so much, including the building code, comes from, or is based on, what happens in Florida. Most products are in imperial sizes (again, these come from the USA). Road signs and car speedometers/odometers are still in miles. (As an unusual aside, and a recent phenomenon, many cars in the Bahamas are private import late model right hand drive Japanese cars - you drive on the left in the Bahamas, but most cars are left hand drive. These RHD Japanese imports come direct from Japan, where there are limits on how old a car can be, and of course all have metric speedometers/odometers - but I was told by a Bahamian government official that there is no law requiring them to be converted to miles.) I seem to remember reading something recently about the Bahamas converting to metric, but I do not believe that it has officially been mandated yet. Hope this helps. John F-L ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Payne To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:36 AM Subject: [USMA:44639] Bahamas Anyone have any idea of what the law in the Bahamas states regarding the preferred or mandated system of measurement there? I looked at http://laws.bahamas.gov.bs/statutes/statute_CHAPTER_338.html and could not find anything except some imported stuff had to be by the Bushel. I'll be going there next week and wanted to know what the situation was before I left. 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