It takes a bit of knowledge in numeracy, which is lacking in those who prefer 
imperial, to understand how to properly convert a dimension from inches to 
millimetres.  

For example, most would simply convert one inch as 25.4 mm.  But if you take 
into account the tolerance of the dimension, you can round to a more sensible 
metric number.  Most measurements in inches are not really that precise, even 
if someone may claim them to be.  Fractional dimensions are the least precise, 
and from my experience may even vary a few millimetres either way in actual 
tolerance.  

Thus the calculator value is not always the best answer and rounding to the 
nearest millimetre often gives a better means to measure and produce in the 
future without problems of fit that some might expect if the calculator value 
is not adhered to.  

So, when converting one inch, the closest millimetre value to go to would be 
either 25 mm or 26 mm.  If possible then 24 mm.  24 mm or 25 mm would be 
preferred over 25 mm as half dimensions of either still result in a whole 
number.  24 mm would be the best choice if possible as it can give you more 
whole numbers each time the dimension is halved before you encounter a decimal 
part.  

Of course it takes a little effort to come up with an acceptable value and like 
cooking from converted recipes, some amount of testing may be needed, but in 
the long run it is worth the effort when one can now work with a sensible 
number in whole millimetres.

Jerry





________________________________
From: Pat Naughtin <pat.naugh...@metricationmatters.com>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:46:49 PM
Subject: [USMA:44704] Re: Cooking using Cups

Dear John and All, 

It seems to me that it is a common trap for people new to metrication to get 
immediately involved in metric conversion where the first part of the process 
is to become amazed at the complexity of all of the old pre-metric measures and 
to try and describe them all, together with their faults.

To my mind, this is a step in the wrong direction that makes some, but very 
little, progress toward metrication. But it is fascinating; and you can spend 
countless hours and days going down this path. 
See http://www.metricationmatters.com/metric_conversion.html for some thoughts 
on this pathway.

For cooking, my wife and I have considered this issue carefully as we 
compiled several different cook books for local charities. Our approach was 
the direct metrication approach where we tool a role as metrication leaders.

To do this we collected all of the special recipes from many wonderful old 
cooks from many parts of the world, converted their recipes to simple metric 
units using generally whole numbers, then test-cooked the lot of them — Yummm! 
See http://www.metricationmatters.com/docs/MetricCookingWithConfidence.pdf 

Notice that our readers, the grand children and great grandchildren of our 
recipe suppliers will never have to see the names of the old pre-metric 
measuring words in our cook books except for teaspoons, tablespoons, and cup, 
which we define wherever they are used. Our readers will never have to do any 
conversions from all of the old measuring methods to modern metric units; they 
can start to cook straight away using metric units only..

Discussions about the different sizes of cups and spoons are possibly best left 
to academic historians while the rest of us just get on with our lives.

Cheers,

Pat Naughtin
Geelong, Australia


On 2009/04/17, at 12:54 AM, John M. Steele wrote:

OK, he is frustrated, I get that.  However, he goes out of his way to be 
confused by American volumetric measure issues which can be cleaned up by 
better research.

A few points, commenting ONLY on American measure.

*Measuring cups and spoons have well defined volumes, "common" cups and spoons 
(real expresso, tea and coffee cups, real flatware) don't.  Use measuring cups 
and spoons to measure.

*1 US gallon = 128 fl oz = 3.785 411 784 L, exactly.
NIST Handbook 44, Appendix C defines the cup as 8 fl oz, the Tablespoon as 0.5 
fl oz, and the teaspoon as 1/3 Tablespoon.  These values are (rounded slightly) 
236.5882 mL, 14.786 76 mL, 4.928 922 mL (from NIST SP811).

*Rounded values of 240 mL, 15 mL, 5 mL are specified by law ONLY for serving 
sizes in the nutrition label (specified by FDA), and are NOT accurate enough 
for net contents labels (specified by FTC). They are probably "good enough" in 
the kitchen, but it should be understood they are rounded.  Measuring 
Tablespoons are commonly marked 1 Tbsp / 15 mL; it is not clear whether they 
are really 15 mL or nearer 14.79 mL, but it probably doesn't matter in cooking.

He is welcome to remain as confused as he wishes to be, but his questions have 
answers.

It does seem that elsewhere, volumetric cooking measure is not as well defined, 
probably because they don't use it anymore.

--- On Thu, 4/16/09, Michael Payne <metricm...@verizon.net> wrote:

From: Michael Payne <metricm...@verizon.net>
Subject: [USMA:44698] Cooking using Cups
To: "U.S. Metric Association" <usma@colostate.edu>
Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 9:35 AM


http://www.lemis.com/grog/recipes/measures.php
 
Interesting take on the various size of cups around the world as well as some 
units from Colonial Malaysia.
 
Mike Payne 

Pat Naughtin
PO Box 305 Belmont 3216,
Geelong, Australia
Phone: 61 3 5241 2008

Metric system consultant, writer, and speaker, Pat Naughtin, has helped 
thousands of people and hundreds of companies upgrade to the modern metric 
system smoothly, quickly, and so economically that they now save thousands each 
year when buying, processing, or selling for their businesses. Pat provides 
services and resources for many different trades, crafts, and professions for 
commercial, industrial and government metrication leaders in Asia, Europe, and 
in the USA. Pat's clients include the Australian Government, Google, NASA, 
NIST, and the metric associations of Canada, the UK, and the USA. 
See http://www.metricationmatters.com/ or to get the free 'Metrication matters' 
newsletter go to: http://www.metricationmatters.com/newsletter to subscribe.



      

Reply via email to