Except that, those things I mentioned happen to be facts, not opinions.
Which you well know.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Humphreys
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: [USMA:48113] Re: attitudes
I think I will survive you saying that you have a different opinion to me,
steve ;-)
(Now where's that cigar....)
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From: stevo.da...@btinternet.com
To: usma@colostate.edu
Subject: [USMA:48108] Re: attitudes
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 19:31:57 +0100
"Other than the obvious road signs and pint glasses in pubs, I see no other
major uses of non-metric in the UK (the pint glass issue is somewhat a minor
issue). Being a pro-metric person who wants total metrication you may see this
as the UK not being as fully metric as you would like it."
"Even road signs are not entirely non-metric in the UK. There are signs
along highways that show kilometre distances that are ignored by the
anti-metric fringe."
"Products in the supermarkets are sold in metric only sizes and even the
scales used to weigh your asked for goods are metric only. If you ask for an
old amount you get a metric amount."
Erm...all of the above happens to be entirely true, NOT bunkum as you suggest.
Nice try, but no cigar! You continually try to suggest most of the time that
the above is not entirely true....I'm happy to put you right.
PS
And yes....you did say ALMOST total bunkum, though, as ever, you never state
which parts actually are bunkum...strange that!
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Humphreys
To: U.S. Metric Association
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 4:20 PM
Subject: [USMA:48096] Re: attitudes
Hopefully most on the list will remember all this as (almost) total bunkum
from previous attempts. The anti-US spin is just the cherry on the cake. For
clearer realistic responses and final outcomes please refer to the previous
times that this consolidated effort below have been raised and put to bed.
These can be found via searching on the USMA list archives via the web front
end rather than the distribution list.
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Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 07:29:56 -0700
From: barkatf...@ymail.com
Subject: [USMA:48095] Re: attitudes
To: usma@colostate.edu
America has always thought of itself as being holier than thou. When you
have a superiority complex it makes you look inferior all of a sudden if you
adopt the practices of those you have always looked down upon. Now that
America is no longer superior it is still hard to break the habit and belief.
It would seem Americans would prefer to be dirt poor and unemployed than to
adopt the ways of the "French".
Other than the obvious road signs and pint glasses in pubs, I see no other
major uses of non-metric in the UK (the pint glass issue is somewhat a minor
issue). Being a pro-metric person who wants total metrication you may see this
as the UK not being as fully metric as you would like it.
An anti-metric person would harp continuously on these two instances to
claim the UK is not metric at all and ignore the 90+ % that is metric.
Even road signs are not entirely non-metric in the UK. There are signs
along highways that show kilometre distances that are ignored by the
anti-metric fringe. There are signs that show metres but are marked off as
yards (denied by the anti-metric fringe). And soon there will be height signs,
possibly width signs too, that will show metres (in addition to out-dated
units), something the anti-metric fringe is opposing.
Even in pubs you can purchase products other than beer in metric amounts,
such as wine and hard licquor.
Products in the supermarkets are sold in metric only sizes and even the
scales used to weigh your asked for goods are metric only. If you ask for an
old amount you get a metric amount.
You purchase petrol by the litre and hear weather reports in metric.
Remnant uses of old unit names exist in every country and may continue to
do so for a long time.
You should at least be grateful that the UK is not in the same position as
the US.
I highly doubt the US will ever regain its pre-eminence even if it does
metricate. No empire that has ever collapsed has ever returned to greatness.
All have become insignificant and poor. Look at Iran (Persia), Iraq (Babylon),
Egypt, Greece, Rome and the UK.
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From: John Frewen-Lord <j...@frewston.plus.com>
To: U.S. Metric Association <usma@colostate.edu>
Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 9:52:52 AM
Subject: [USMA:48093] attitudes
Does America not adopt the metric system out of sheer bloody-mindedness?
On the BP oil spill, this article I find very telling (mostly imperial
unfortunately). The UK is not much better, at least at governmental level.
The day America changes its attitude to the rest of the world (of which SI is a
fundamental part) is the day that the US will regain its pre-eminence, not
until.
http://www.financialpost.com/Avertible+catastrophe/3203808/story.html#ixzz0sGacwW4e
John F-L
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