Dear Nate,

no it says something like this is not supported with the N310 and I should pass it using the args options. Sorry, I don't have access to the N310 right now, so I can't give you the exact message, but I have tried that.

Florian.

On 10/12/2018 19:00, Nate Temple wrote:
Hi Florian,

If you pass the arg  "--ref external" to tx_waveforms, does it resolve this frequency offset?

https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/blob/master/host/examples/tx_waveforms.cpp#L62

Regards,
Nate Temple

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 12:22 AM Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com <mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>> wrote:

    Hi Marcus,

    I have measured this with a spectrum analyzer simply by setting
    markers to the peak of the sinusoid (one marker per measured USRP)
    and then taking the delta.

    Could it be that the USRP is ignoring the external reference when
    used alone? Remember, I am doing the test with one USRP at a time,
    as the test using multiple USRP simultaneously does not work.

    Florian.

    On 06/12/2018 00:29, Marcus Müller wrote:
    oh! That means 341 ppb frequency error, which *really* shouldn't be
    happening.

    I'd like to get some statistics of that error, how are you measuring
    it?

    Best regards,
    Marcus

    On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 12:55 +0100, Florian Kaltenberger wrote:
    Sorry typo. I did use a frequency of 3.51GHz.

    On 5 Dec 2018, at 12:54, Marcus Müller<marcus.muel...@ettus.com>  
<mailto:marcus.muel...@ettus.com>
    wrote:

    Hi Florian,

    trying to get my head to understand the order of problems here:
    Could you try to use a higher frequency (say, --freq 2e9 instead of
    3.5e6)?
    I'd thing 3.51 MHz is out of range for the N310, anyway?

    Best regards,
    Marcus

    On Wed, 2018-12-05 at 11:49 +0100, Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-
    users
    wrote:
    So I can confirm that there is a frequency offset between the two
    USRP N310s when using only an octoclock (10MHz + PPS) to
    synchronize.
    I have measured with the tx_waveforms program
    ./tx_waveforms --args
    "addr=192.168.x.2,time_src=external,clock_src=external,master_clo
    ck_r
    ate=122.88e6" --rate 122.88e6 --freq 3.51e6 --wave-type SINE --
    wave-
    freq 10e6 --gain 100
    on the first USRP N310 (x=10) and then on the other (x=20). There
    is
    an offset of 1200Hz between the peaks of the sinusoids between
    the
    two measurements.
    Using an external LO didn't change anything either. Unless I need
    to
    provide any other arguments in that case?
    I also tried to do a test where I use both USRPs simultaneously
    ./tx_waveforms --args
    "addr0=192.168.10.2,addr1=192.168.20.2,time_src=external,clock_sr
    c=ex
    ternal,master_clock_rate=122.88e6" --rate 122.88e6 --freq 3.51e6
    --
    wave-type SINE --wave-freq 10e6 --gain 100--channels "0,4"
    but unfortunately that does not work at all at my testbench
    (program
    hangs and no signal transmitted).
    My UHD version is 3.13.0.2 (UHD_3.13.0.HEAD-0-g0ddc19e5)
    Any help appreciated.
    Thanks!
    Florian.

    On 04/12/2018 21:29, Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users wrote:
    Hi Marcus and Robin,
    thanks for your answers, this is helpful information. I should
    add,
    that I actually tried the synchronization with an octoclock
    (10MHz
    + PPS), but it did not give me the expected results, i.e., I
    saw
    some residual frequency offsets. But maybe I screwed up at some
    point. Let me do some more measurements and get back to you on
    this.
    Florian.

    On 04/12/2018 18:57, Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users wrote:
    On 12/04/2018 10:14 AM, Florian Kaltenberger via USRP-users
    wrote:
    Hi there,
    I just discovered that in addition to the external 10MHz
    reference in, the USRP N310 also has external local
    oscilator
    inputs, one for each daughterboard and each TX/RX. So does
    that
    mean that in order to synchronize multiple N310 in
    frequency,
    phase, and time, it is no longer sufficient to use an
    octoclock
    to provide a 10MHz reference and PPS? If so, at what
    frequency
    do you have to drive the external LOs and at what power?
    Florian.

    In addition to what Robin posted, I'll observe that the
    external
    LO port is an *additional feature* of this device.

    You should still be able to use the external 10MHz and 1PPS
    ports
    the same way you would with a B210 or E310, since the AD9371
      front-end chip is similar to the AD9361 chip used in the
    B210
    and E310.

    The thing about synchronizing multiple independent PLL
    synthesizers, though, compared to a strictly-shared-LO, is
    that
    the former will
      experience both phase ambiguities, and have a higher mutual
    phase-noise than the latter, which is why you might decide to
    choose
      the latter.




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