Hi again Wade,

After making some synthesis with and without the clock wizard ip, I have
observed that there is higher timing paths for those which use the ip
rather than the ones which don't.
I am lowing the clock for the design so I would expect the opposite
behaviour. Alongside with the verilog files generated in Vivado, there is a
constraint file for the clocking wizard which I think I should include.
Do you include this file on the rfnoc framework when using this ip? Where
should I include this file?

Kind Regards,

Maria

El lun., 6 jun. 2022 21:50, Wade Fife <wade.f...@ettus.com> escribió:

> You're right. It really depends on the IP. Some are very complicated
> (hundreds of files) and it makes sense to try to use the XCI and let Vivado
> do the work of figuring out all the dependencies. For the clk_wiz, I think
> it makes more sense to just reference the .v files generated by Vivado, or
> just copy/paste the generated code you need and paste it into your design.
>
> Wade
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 9:40 AM Maria Muñoz <mamuk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thanks for your answers.
>>
>> Wade, you are correct, I am trying to instance a clock wizard for an x310
>> project. In my VHDL/Verilog Makefile.srcs, I have included the clk_wiz_0.v
>> and clk_wiz_0_clk_wiz.v files as you said and, for now, synthesis is not
>> complaining, so it seems to work (I guess I do not have to include the "vh"
>> files that Vivado use, do I?)
>> I had tried to do this in the past with other IP but there were so many
>> missing sources... So I will also check the other way you propose to
>> include the .xci source.
>> Again many thanks for your answer!
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Maria
>>
>> El lun, 6 jun 2022 a las 15:45, Wade Fife (<wade.f...@ettus.com>)
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hi Maria,
>>>
>>> Which IP are you trying to include? And is it failing when trying to
>>> simulate or only when building the FPGA? Some IP are easier to include than
>>> others. From your examples, it looked like you were trying to include the
>>> clock wizard. For that IP I usually just copy the MMCM or PLL code that
>>> Vivado generates rather than including the XCI, since the generated code is
>>> mostly just a single primitive, but I think referencing the XCI should also
>>> work.
>>>
>>> So this is not the only way to do it, but the example we have for how to
>>> include IP in an OOT block is here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/tree/master/host/examples/rfnoc-example/fpga/ip/cmplx_mul
>>>
>>> To use this IP example, you need to include these lines in your OOT
>>> block's makefile (which is used for simulation):
>>>
>>> https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/blob/5333d3d12ffc21229ec4203a9ea1c7f68d82e57f/host/examples/rfnoc-example/fpga/rfnoc_block_gain/Makefile#L28
>>>
>>> https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/blob/5333d3d12ffc21229ec4203a9ea1c7f68d82e57f/host/examples/rfnoc-example/fpga/rfnoc_block_gain/Makefile#L29
>>>
>>> And add it to the Makefile.srcs for your block:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/blob/5333d3d12ffc21229ec4203a9ea1c7f68d82e57f/host/examples/rfnoc-example/fpga/Makefile.srcs#L15
>>>
>>> https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/blob/5333d3d12ffc21229ec4203a9ea1c7f68d82e57f/host/examples/rfnoc-example/fpga/Makefile.srcs#L16
>>>
>>> Note also how it gets added to LIB_IP_XCI_SRCS. This is already include
>>> in the examles FPGA (X310):
>>>
>>> https://github.com/EttusResearch/uhd/blob/5333d3d12ffc21229ec4203a9ea1c7f68d82e57f/fpga/usrp3/top/x300/Makefile.x300.inc#L109
>>>
>>> Make sure that line exists for the FPGA you are trying to build. But it
>>> looked like you were building an x300 variant, so it should be there.
>>>
>>> Wade
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 3:21 AM sp h <stackprogra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, I'll take a look. I had a question for creating your custom RFNOC
>>>> block do you use rfnocmodtool creator?
>>>> I think for using an IP core from Xilinx in your
>>>> rfnoc_rfnocblock_blockname.v, you should see a folder in the UHD driver?
>>>> I worked with x300 series RFNOC block, In a folder on this path
>>>> (/home/sp/Documents/uhd-4.2.0.0/fpga/usrp3/lib
>>>> ) exist a folder as name ip..
>>>> IP cores that we need should be defined in the UHD driver folder...
>>>> Your IP list should be added to this folder and changed makefiles
>>>> carefully!!!!
>>>>
>>>> Before you complete your development may be useful this info that we
>>>> follow...
>>>> 1)Do you make the default  UHD FPGA image successfully? Does it work?
>>>> For me, the default UHD FPGA that I make bitstream myself works fine.
>>>>
>>>> 2)But !!! When I want to change RFNOC blocks for example Added an FFT
>>>> block, Radiocores, DDC, and DUC work but
>>>> for FFT and new blocks that I added it does not work.
>>>> It generates OOOOO I described it in the below link
>>>> https://lists.ettus.com/empathy/thread/VJB7A53C6X77JN7DPP3ATASYO4MAH7GH
>>>>
>>>> 3)When I created a custom RFNOC block, Testbench and generate bitstream
>>>> is ok but for working RFNOC block in GNURadio I faced with error section 2.
>>>> Generate OOOOOO in Gnuradio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: Screenshot from 2022-06-06 12-34-22.png]
>>>>
>>>> For using IP core directly I think you are not familiar with noc_shell
>>>> and RFNOC module structure...
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 10:12 PM Maria Muñoz <mamuk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the answer.
>>>>> I think that what I'm trying to do should be possible since the addsub
>>>>> example has an option for a hls instance. Maybe I have not explain myself
>>>>> well.
>>>>> I have a top level module which includes several .vhd sources
>>>>> alongside with an ip from xilinx. I can instance this top level entity in
>>>>> the rfnoc_rfnocblock_blockname.v and I can synthesize it if my top_level
>>>>> hasn't include any ip core. But when I have this IP instanced inside my
>>>>> top_level, the makefile chain can't read or regenerate the ip core from 
>>>>> the
>>>>> source file (which is an .xci file).
>>>>> What I do not know is how to add the .xci source to the Makefiles so
>>>>> the vivado scripts (which are called when I do "rfnoc_image_builder")
>>>>> synthesize it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Maria
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> El dom., 5 jun. 2022 18:50, sp h <stackprogra...@gmail.com> escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, You should not expect that integrate or add Xilinx IP core
>>>>>> directly to RFNOC blocks, Even If you be a master in Verilog...
>>>>>> If you see the UHD source code you will realize that UHD is an RFNOC
>>>>>> framework for USRP ...
>>>>>> For working with the RFNOC UHD framework you should know more details:
>>>>>> 1)Please see this link
>>>>>> https://files.ettus.com/app_notes/RFNoC_Specification.pdf
>>>>>> 2)Any RFNOC block has two files, noc_shell_blockname.v  and
>>>>>> rfnoc_block_blockname.v  these two file are very important
>>>>>> the first file is a low-level definition for the RFNOC block and the
>>>>>> second file is the high-level definition for the block. I mention that we
>>>>>> should use IP core in the second file ...
>>>>>> And more details that you should study UHD source code till getting
>>>>>> them...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 6:03 PM Rob Kossler <rkoss...@nd.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Maria,
>>>>>>> I apologize but I am not very experienced with these matters. I am
>>>>>>> able to copy the rfnoc-example folder to an OOT location and build it 
>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>> know it has both OOT and in-tree IP options.  In the past I have
>>>>>>> successfully run the 'make <testbench>' and also built an image such as
>>>>>>> "make <x300_core>". But, outside of that, I don't really know what I'm
>>>>>>> doing....
>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 9:05 AM Maria Muñoz <mamuk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I try to put these lines in the makefile.srcs inside my_block/fpga
>>>>>>>> folder as in the rfnoc example:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> #RFNOC_OOT_SRCS += $(abspath $(addprefix ${RFNOC_EXAMPLE_DIR},
>>>>>>>> #my_other_module.v \
>>>>>>>> #ip/my_ip_core/my_ip_core.xci \
>>>>>>>> #))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I add my .xci IP to this folder and give the name of the IP as a
>>>>>>>> rfnoc_oot_src. I can compile the block but when I try to perform 
>>>>>>>> synthesis
>>>>>>>> it gives me this error:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ERROR: [DRC INBB-3] Black Box Instances: Cell
>>>>>>>> 'x300_core/bus_int_i/rfnoc_sandbox_i/b_3/top_i/my_clk' of type 
>>>>>>>> 'clk_wiz_0'
>>>>>>>> has undefined contents and is considered a black box.  The contents of 
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> cell must be defined for opt_design to complete successfully.
>>>>>>>> ERROR: [Vivado_Tcl 4-78] Error(s) found during DRC. Opt_design not
>>>>>>>> run.
>>>>>>>> ERROR: [Common 17-39] 'opt_design' failed due to earlier errors.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I think I am missing something. I do not see anything else
>>>>>>>> related to IP core. Is there something else I have to do?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> El mié, 1 jun 2022 a las 17:48, Rob Kossler (<rkoss...@nd.edu>)
>>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Maria,
>>>>>>>>> The rfnoc-example folder within the UHD tree shows an example of
>>>>>>>>> how to add an out-of-tree IP block. Did you look at this yet?
>>>>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 5:12 AM Maria Muñoz <mamuk...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to synthesize a design that includes a vivado ip core
>>>>>>>>>> inside.
>>>>>>>>>> Normally, I add my .vhd/.v source files to the Makefile.srcs
>>>>>>>>>> inside my block like this:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RFNOC_OOT_SRCS += $(addprefix $(dir $(abspath $(lastword
>>>>>>>>>> $(MAKEFILE_LIST)))), \
>>>>>>>>>> source1.vhd \
>>>>>>>>>> source2.v \
>>>>>>>>>> source3.v \
>>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But adding the .xci file of my IP core does not work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What is the process to include this file in the makefile chain to
>>>>>>>>>> compile it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maria.
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