Hi Yaron,

    [snipped]

    >     Do you want to say anything about EdDSA and the kerfuffle going on in 
cfrg@ mailing list right now?  No is a
    > good, and probably sane, answer.
    > 
    > No. We discussed it briefly and although we added 25519 for the ECDH key 
exchange, we are not
    > recommending (or even discussing) the use of EdDSA for signatures or 
certs. So there's nowhere to even
    > include such a comment.

    The discussion in CFRG was not about EdDSA specifically, but about fault 
attacks on other deterministic signature
    schemes, including deterministic ECDSA. The draft currently recommends 
using deterministic ECDSA (as specified in RFC6979) 
    over the classic one, so we seem to explicitly recommend what 
cryptographers express concerns of.

    On the other hand, it seems to me that "fault attacks" are outside 
Dolev-Yao model, so I'm not sure
    how relevant their concerns are in the context of the draft.

    Regards,
    Valery.

Hi Valery,

You are right about det-ECDSA and this is a very good question. IMO some 
side-channel attacks are relevant to the generic Internet model and some are 
not (even if all of them are outside the Dolev-Yao model). Timing oracle 
attacks can be initiated remotely and therefore are addressed by mechanisms 
that we recommend in RFC 7525. OTOH fault attacks have much more limited 
applicability and so we don't discuss them.

Thanks,
        Yaron


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