Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile-23: Discuss

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# Éric Vyncke INT AD comments for draft-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile-23
CC @evyncke

Thank you for the work put into this document.

Please find below some blocking DISCUSS points (easy to address), some
non-blocking COMMENT points/nits (replies would be appreciated even if only for
my own education).

Other thanks to Mohit Sethi, the IoT directorate reviewer (at my request),
please consider this recent iot-dir review:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile-23-iotdir-telechat-sethi-2026-08-02/

I hope that this review helps to improve the document,

Regards,

-éric

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## DISCUSS (blocking)

As noted in
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-handling-ballot-positions-20220121/,
a DISCUSS ballot is a request to have a discussion on the points below; I
really think that the document would be improved with a change here, but can be
convinced otherwise.

### Section 2

Reference to draft-ietf-iotops-7228bis is normative per `IoT device-class
terminology follows [RFC7228] and [I-D.ietf-iotops-7228bis]. `

### Section 3

Why not a "MUST" in `For PSK use, endpoints SHOULD use (EC)DHE where possible;
see Section 7` ? Or add the guidance required by the IESG statement
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/statement-iesg-statement-on-clarifying-the-use-of-bcp-14-key-words/

### Section 7

Does the guidance for the 2nd "SHOULD" also applies to the first one in `For
PSK use, endpoints SHOULD use (EC)DHE to achieve forward secrecy; PSK-only
SHOULD be avoided unless the application can tolerate the loss of forward
secrecy.` ? The text is unclear.

### Section 13

Please provide guidance for the use "SHOULD" in `Implementations in compliance
with this specification MUST implement the RSL extension and SHOULD use it to
indicate their RAM limitations.`

### Section 17.2.4

Another "SHOULD" without the required guidance in `The Key Usage extension
SHOULD be set`.

### Section 17.4.1

Why not a "MUST" in `Environments that are concerned about such traffic
analysis SHOULD use an enrollment protocol to migrate` or rephrase it to state
that bypassing the SHOULD will expose the exchange to traffic analysis.

### IoT directorate review

While Mohit's IoT-directorate review is fairly recent, please reply to Mohit's
review as some points seem important to me:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-uta-tls13-iot-profile-23-iotdir-telechat-sethi-2026-08-02/


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COMMENT:
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## COMMENTS (non-blocking)

### Section 17.1.5

Who is the "we" in `we advise the use of a device management solution` ? The
authors ? The WG ? The IETF community ? Please avoid ambiguities.

Possibly also in other places.

Use "Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)" in `Values MUST be expressed in
Greenwich Mean Time (Zulu) ` "Zulu" is an aviation term that has little value
in an IETF document.



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