* Michael Brailsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-02-02 15:18:03 -0600]:

> > This is a typical reaction from those who learn about GNU/Linux and
> <snip>
> > GNU/Linux was laid quite some time ago, but the complete GNU/Linux as
> 
> Having just read "Just For Fun", I take exception to GNU/Linux term
> being applied to Linux.  RMS didn't create Linux, he just wants GNU
> to get some name recognition by piggy-backing on the work of Linus.
> This is because Linus used GNU tools to create Linux.  

Linus Torvalds did indeed use GNU tools to create Linux, and you use 
GNU tools (just about) every time you use the Linux kernel.  The only
system I know of that uses the Linux kernel _without_ using GNU tools
and utilities is Debian/NetBSD (there might be embedded OSs out there
as well that don't use GNU software).

> My point 
> is, so what?  Just because I an HP laptop to create my projects,
> do I need to call anything that I create HP/<whatever>?  Or if I use
> Stanley tools to build a house, do I need to include Stanley in the
> name?  

Different.  You can't use Linux without using GNU software (except for 
aforementioned rare exceptions).

> I mean we all know RMS to be a lot on the fringe, but it sounds a
> little despicable to call it GNU/Linux because he thinks he deserves
> some credit.  I guess no one has ever denied RMS's ego.  

The ego of RMS is indeed huge, but I'd say he, and the GNU project in
general, deserve a lot of credit.  Personally, I don't use the term 
GNU/Linux often because I'm lazy, but it is correct to refer to the 
kernel as Linux, and the OS as GNU/Linux.

> ...
> 
> Anyway, flame away...
> 
> -- 
> Michael
> 

Ladies and Gentlemen, START YOUR FLAMETHROWERS!!  :)

-- 
Arlie Capps
CS student at BYU

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