I purchased to following from newegg last January.

Item  List
MB NFORCE2 A7N8X-E DELUXE ASUS RTL  (Qty=1,Price=113.99)
CPU AMD|2700 /333 ATHLON XP RTL  (Qty=1,Price=121.00)
DDRAM KINGMAX MPX62D 256 PC3200%  (Qty=2,Price=84.00)

Seemed to be a good price/performance ratio with room for expansion.  (SATA,
GEnet ect) I'm sure the prices have come down by now.

a few notes.

  I couldn't get it to run with my SCSI drives until I disabled the SATA
(via a jumper) so I'm not sure what will happen if I ever buy a SATA drive.
(I'm happy with SCSI for now)  I do also run an 80gig EIDE drive as a
secondary disk without issue.

  With a 333MHz CPU, the memory runs best a 166MHz even though I purchased
the faster DDRAM.  Also, if your going to run dual-channel, (and why
wouldn't you) buy matching SIMM at the same time.  I've heard a number bad
scenarios from people that didn't.

  The thing runs a little warmer than my previous 1G Athlon.  I reused the
same case, but ended up adding more fans to the case to keep it cool.  I
have a older case, the newer ones probable wouldn't have this issue.

  All in all, I'm very happy with the upgrade.  It's much faster than my
previous 1G Athlon system.

dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Strum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:39 AM
To: 'BYU Unix Users Group'
Subject: RE: [uug] new system, which motherboard/chipset?


Bryan,

If you are looking for the best price/performance ratio, I would go with a
2500+ Athlon XP (should be about $80-90).

As for the motherboard, the nForce 2 400 Ultra boards are very nice and have
come down in price ($100 or less for a decent board).  The 2.6 kernel has
very nice support for this chipset.  I have a nForce 2 board and I have
everything working in Linux.  If you would rather go with VIA, the newest
chipset is the KT600.  Both (I'm not 100% sure about the KT600) have
dual-channel memory which theoretically improves performance.

DDR is still going to be the standard for a while.  Even though DDR II is
coming out, it will have the same performance (but bigger cost) for a while
(because of high latency).  I would get at least 512 MB of DDR2700 (if the
CPU has a 333 MHz bus) or DDR3200 (if the CPU has a 400 MHz bus) memory.  If
you get a motherboard that has dual-channel memory make sure to get 2 sticks
of RAM, because you must place one in each channel to get the performance
boost.

For a video card (if you are a gamer), I would look at either an ATI Radeon
9600XT or nVidia GeForceFX 5700 Ultra.  Both can be found for about $160 or
less and will be able to handle Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 with moderate
settings (assuming both actually get released).  Both nVidia and ATI are
releasing the new generating of video cards in the next month or two (ATI
Radeon X800 and nVidia GeForce 6800), so prices will most likely drop around
that time.

Have you looked at newegg.com?  They have very reasonable prices and the
shipping is free a lot of the time.  For barebones kits at newegg.com, you
can look here: http://www.newegg.com/app/manufactory.asp?catalog=3&DEPA=0.

A lot of the PC architecture will be updated this year and into next year,
so I wouldn't spend a lot on a new system.  PCI Express will replace the
current AGP and PCI slots and x86-64 (64-bit chip that can run 32-bit code
natively) will replace the current 32 bit chips.  You can buy x86-64 chips
from AMD now, but AMD is replacing both desktop sockets 940 and 754 with the
newer socket 939 this year (leaving socket 940 for servers only and 754 for
Duron-class processors).

I hope this helps, sorry about the length =).

-- Matt Strum


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