So two of your recommend motherboards with the nforce chipset, but one
says there are only experimental hacked drivers for Linux for this
chipset (i.e. on board stuff).  What's the story?  I'm currently leaning
away from anything nvidia, except for maybe a graphics card (I just want
to be able to play bzflag or armegatron occasionally with decent
performance).

Bryan

On Fri, 2004-05-07 at 11:58, Tucker, David wrote:
> I purchased to following from newegg last January.
> 
> Item  List
> MB NFORCE2 A7N8X-E DELUXE ASUS RTL  (Qty=1,Price=113.99)
> CPU AMD|2700 /333 ATHLON XP RTL  (Qty=1,Price=121.00)
> DDRAM KINGMAX MPX62D 256 PC3200%  (Qty=2,Price=84.00)
> 
> Seemed to be a good price/performance ratio with room for expansion.  (SATA,
> GEnet ect) I'm sure the prices have come down by now.
> 
> a few notes.
> 
>   I couldn't get it to run with my SCSI drives until I disabled the SATA
> (via a jumper) so I'm not sure what will happen if I ever buy a SATA drive.
> (I'm happy with SCSI for now)  I do also run an 80gig EIDE drive as a
> secondary disk without issue.
> 
>   With a 333MHz CPU, the memory runs best a 166MHz even though I purchased
> the faster DDRAM.  Also, if your going to run dual-channel, (and why
> wouldn't you) buy matching SIMM at the same time.  I've heard a number bad
> scenarios from people that didn't.
> 
>   The thing runs a little warmer than my previous 1G Athlon.  I reused the
> same case, but ended up adding more fans to the case to keep it cool.  I
> have a older case, the newer ones probable wouldn't have this issue.
> 
>   All in all, I'm very happy with the upgrade.  It's much faster than my
> previous 1G Athlon system.
> 
> dave
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Strum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 8:39 AM
> To: 'BYU Unix Users Group'
> Subject: RE: [uug] new system, which motherboard/chipset?
> 
> 
> Bryan,
> 
> If you are looking for the best price/performance ratio, I would go with a
> 2500+ Athlon XP (should be about $80-90).
> 
> As for the motherboard, the nForce 2 400 Ultra boards are very nice and have
> come down in price ($100 or less for a decent board).  The 2.6 kernel has
> very nice support for this chipset.  I have a nForce 2 board and I have
> everything working in Linux.  If you would rather go with VIA, the newest
> chipset is the KT600.  Both (I'm not 100% sure about the KT600) have
> dual-channel memory which theoretically improves performance.
> 
> DDR is still going to be the standard for a while.  Even though DDR II is
> coming out, it will have the same performance (but bigger cost) for a while
> (because of high latency).  I would get at least 512 MB of DDR2700 (if the
> CPU has a 333 MHz bus) or DDR3200 (if the CPU has a 400 MHz bus) memory.  If
> you get a motherboard that has dual-channel memory make sure to get 2 sticks
> of RAM, because you must place one in each channel to get the performance
> boost.
> 
> For a video card (if you are a gamer), I would look at either an ATI Radeon
> 9600XT or nVidia GeForceFX 5700 Ultra.  Both can be found for about $160 or
> less and will be able to handle Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 with moderate
> settings (assuming both actually get released).  Both nVidia and ATI are
> releasing the new generating of video cards in the next month or two (ATI
> Radeon X800 and nVidia GeForce 6800), so prices will most likely drop around
> that time.
> 
> Have you looked at newegg.com?  They have very reasonable prices and the
> shipping is free a lot of the time.  For barebones kits at newegg.com, you
> can look here: http://www.newegg.com/app/manufactory.asp?catalog=3&DEPA=0.
> 
> A lot of the PC architecture will be updated this year and into next year,
> so I wouldn't spend a lot on a new system.  PCI Express will replace the
> current AGP and PCI slots and x86-64 (64-bit chip that can run 32-bit code
> natively) will replace the current 32 bit chips.  You can buy x86-64 chips
> from AMD now, but AMD is replacing both desktop sockets 940 and 754 with the
> newer socket 939 this year (leaving socket 940 for servers only and 754 for
> Duron-class processors).
> 
> I hope this helps, sorry about the length =).
> 
> -- Matt Strum
> 
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