On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:43:20 -0600 (MDT), Ross Werner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On a related note, I don't believe in atheists.  I've met several who
> > claimed they were but not one who wasn't really just upset about
> > something (usually an injustice of some kind).
> 
> Isaac Asimov, Richard Feynman, Douglas Adams, Richard Dawkins--some of the
> greatest minds of this century and you're claiming they're just upset
> about something?

Yup.  Well, no, not exactly "upset" but disenchanted in some way with
how He appears to be "doing his job".  I never met these people
either, I only said I hadn't met one yet.  It's entirely possible they
exist.

> > One major problem is that it's both.  I met many a missionary in New
> > York who felt the "spirit" while doing things they clearly should not
> > be doing.  I imagine they really thought they did.  My guess is about
> > half the time people feel the spirit it's really just adrenaline.
> > (Not half the time for all people, nor half the people all the time,
> > but some mix where many people mostly feel the spirit and many others
> > mostly feel adrenaline or some other hormone).
> 
> How do you know they *weren't* feeling the Spirit? Why is it put upon you
> to judge? Often people say, "Nobody can tell you that you don't have a
> testimony, because it's a personal revelation from the Spirit." So if you
> don't feel like others can tell *you* that *you* weren't feeling the
> Spirit at a particular time when you felt like you were doing what was
> right, that you can tell others that they're not "really" feeling the
> Spirit because they're obviously doing something "they're not supposed to
> be doing"?

Like baptizing a drunk at midnight?  C'mon, did you think I was
talking about people choosing to call media referrals when I thought
they should be tracting?

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