On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:55:00 -0600, Andrew Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:43:20 -0600 (MDT), Ross Werner > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you know they *weren't* feeling the Spirit? Why is it put upon you > > to judge? Often people say, "Nobody can tell you that you don't have a > > testimony, because it's a personal revelation from the Spirit." So if you > > don't feel like others can tell *you* that *you* weren't feeling the > > Spirit at a particular time when you felt like you were doing what was > > right, that you can tell others that they're not "really" feeling the > > Spirit because they're obviously doing something "they're not supposed to > > be doing"? > > Like baptizing a drunk at midnight? C'mon, did you think I was > talking about people choosing to call media referrals when I thought > they should be tracting?
I have to add to this before I get flamed. I don't normally try to decide whether someone is or isn't feeling the spirit. I've had some experiences that were truly obvious, as I've said. I don't claim (or even wish) to be able to judge whether someone is or isn't feeling the spirit, but there are times when it would be hard not to recognize it. These experiences have made me realize how careful I need to be. We're told that even the elect will be deceived (and history has shown it to be true) so how much more careful should the rest of us be? Then also look outside the church, many people of other faiths feel the spirit (at least I think they do, even if some of your religeon professors don't), but many feel hormones and emotions intentionally (or unintentionally) incited by their leaders or others. There are extreme cases outside the church to demonstrate this as well. People have done a lot of crazy and very bad things "under the influence". I'm also not saying those missionaries were prompted by the devil, more likely they just got excited. ____________________ BYU Unix Users Group http://uug.byu.edu/ ___________________________________________________________________ List Info: http://uug.byu.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uug-list
