I would be heartbroken if BYU goes with another canned piece of software
that's crappy, useless, and overpriced (like blackboard). I have a LOT of
ideas about this endeavor (and am excited that others at BYU are looking at
creating an online social network for BYU students/alumni/faculty).

I live and breath social software. I've been researching for the past year
with a few professors on how to best use web2.0/social software in
education. I would love to talk to whoever is in charge of this effort as
one of my long-held dreams has been to help build a social learning network
for BYU. I see huge huge benefits from having all students, alumni, and
falculty connected, sharing, and learning together.

I built island.byu.edu using Drupal earlier this year for the ISys
department to do much what you were talking about Scott.  One of our several
purposes is to connect alumni with students through informal mentoring. The
Island website is built around groups based on topic and geographic area.
These are discussion groups. Students and alumni join groups they are
interested in and ask questions and share knowledge. By bringing students
and alumni together in groups where they share common interests -- all those
things happen that you mentioned -- sharing career opportunities,
development ideas, market info, employer info, etc. in the different groups.


For example, one of the groups is on business intelligence. If you love
business intelligence, you would join this groups and ask questions about
the field, about career opportunites, what it's really like working in the
field, etc. Alumni who are working in the business intelligence field will
belong to this group and will answer your questions. And that takes no
organization on anyone's part. The mentoring all happens very naturally as
people create/join groups they are interested in.

BTW, anyone with a Route Y ID can create an account on Island -- just login
and an account will be created. It was built for ISys students but anyone
interested can create an account and join groups. I'd be interested to hear
feedback on the site.

So I'd love to see something like Island built for school-wide usage. I'd
love to see groups with students and falculty from different
majors/disciplines. CS/ISys/IT/Electrical Engineering, for example, have
large areas of overlap but come at these areas from very different
perspectives. It'd be fun and educational to see people's perspectives from
different areas. My passion growing up wasn't really in the technical but in
the social sciences. I'd love to join in groups on history, psychology,
sociologoy, anthrapology etc. to expand my knowlege in those disciplines.

I built Island using Drupal and Drupal IMHO is the best software for
building community websites. Loads of community sites are built using Drupal
and it's widely used in education (See Drupal in Education
group<http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-education>).
The biggest upside to using Drupal is Drupal makes it possible to build a
very customized solution to meet BYU's specific needs (not a canned solution
that sorta works). (read Situated
Software<http://www.shirky.com/writings/situated_software.html>for
more why that is a very good thing). If we go with Linked-In -- we'd
be
constrained by their limits and vision. Same problem with every other
commercial "solution". It'd be much better if BYU were to roll their own
solution.

Ok, I have lots more I could say about this subject but I'll stop for now.


Kyle


On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Scott K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Perhaps part of the answer is working hard to tap the network of BYU
>> alumni. Today that might be much easier than it was 5 years ago. Not
>> only can you try asking the BYU Alumni Association for help, you can
>> also turn to resources like LinkedIn. It'll be hard, and probably only
>> possible 2 or 3 times a year, but hopefully it would help set the tone
>> for other meetings.
>>
>
>
> That should be easier in the near future. I went to a focus group a couple
> months ago put on by the alumni association to figure out how to best
> leverage the alumni in general for sharing career opportunities, development
> ideas, market info, employer info, etc. (it was run by a consultant from
> http://thecodeworksinc.com/ ).
>
> While they are examining several possibilities, the most likely step BYU
> will make is the introduction of a social network to maximize user generated
> content and participation. Contracting with Linked In or another provider to
> get this up and running by April is one of the solutions they are
> considering.
>
> If you have ideas about how to make this university endeavor work (And not
> suck like the new BYU website), discuss them here, and I'll  email them to
> Neal, the consultant, in hopes to exchange ideas for the current direction
> of the project.
>
> Scott K.
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