On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:05 AM Frank Tang <ft...@chromium.org> wrote:

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> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:33 AM Yoav Weiss <y...@yoav.ws> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:10 AM Frank Tang <ft...@chromium.org> wrote:
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>>> For m87
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>>> Contact emailsft...@chromium.org, s...@chromium.org
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>>> Explainer
>>> https://github.com/tc39/proposal-intl-segmenter
>>>
>>> Specificationhttps://tc39.github.io/proposal-intl-segmenter/
>>>
>>> Design docs
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xugLpLmgRFnNXK8ztariTAbD2IXueDw1T3VNuuZCz8k/edit#heading=h.xgjl2srtytjt
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>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1X2zBU3bZ4ergVMWfubCsdnHFzeaDgqiTRJVgvNGjQBs/edit#slide=id.p
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>>> TAG reviewreviewed by ECMA402 and TC39
>>>
>>> SummaryIntl.Segmenter implements methods for finding the location of
>>> boundaries in text, including grapheme, line, word and sentence boundary
>>> analysis.
>>>
>>> Link to “Intent to Prototype” blink-dev discussion
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/muRQBwyzzPw/m/MXnlnDEdBgAJ
>>>
>>> Risks
>>>
>>>
>>> Interoperability and CompatibilityThe specification is moved to Stage 3
>>> in TC39 2020-Jul meeting with support from ECMA402.
>>>
>>> *Gecko*: In development (
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1423593)
>>>
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>> That issue seems stalled...
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> Zibi (ECMA402 members from Mozilla) could you comment about your
> understanding about how likely Gecko would support Intl.Segmenter?
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>>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>>
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>> Could you ask
>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xkHRXnFS8GDqZi7E0SSbR3a7CZsGScdxPUWBsNgo-oo/edit#heading=h.tgzhprxcmw4u>
>> for official signals from both?
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> Mathias - could you help?
> Ross / rkirsl...@gmail.com (TC39 member from Apple) could you comment
> about your understanding about how likely Safari would support
> Intl.Segmenter?
>

Note that I work for Sony, not Apple, but I do work on JSC and I can say
that we have a finished implementation expected to land in the near future:
https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213638


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>>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>>
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>> Who's asking for this? Why are we implementing? Do we believe it's
>> something developers will use?
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>
> This is really needed to replace the non-standard Intl.v8BreakIterator. We
> somehow shipped a non standard one  Intl.v8BreakIterator and ECMA402 and
> TC39 really think there is a need to
> retire/obsolete/deprecated  Intl.v8BreakIterator but we need a standard one
> first ship so we can tell the developer how to adopt the standard one.
> According to
> https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/556 currently
> 0.4% of all chrome page load use Intl.v8BreakIterator. and these are the
> first target  we would them to move their code away from
> Intl.v8BreakIterator to Intl.Segmenter . Even with just Chrome launch it,
> it will be better that they stay using the chrome only Intl.v8BreakIterator
> as today.
>
>
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>>>
>>> ErgonomicsEngineer from Apple believe we should not add line break
>>> support to the Intl.Segmenter because the developer may abuse the API and
>>> perform text layout by themselves instead of depending on CSS. The line
>>> break feature then were removed from the specification in the current shape.
>>>
>>>
>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>> ?Yes https://github.com/tc39/test262/tree/master/test/intl402/Segmenter
>>>
>>> Tracking bughttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/v8/issues/detail?id=6891
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>> https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/6099397733515264
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