On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 1:15 AM Ross Kirsling <rkirsl...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:05 AM Frank Tang <ft...@chromium.org> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:33 AM Yoav Weiss <y...@yoav.ws> wrote:
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>>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 1:10 AM Frank Tang <ft...@chromium.org> wrote:
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>>>> For m87
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>>>> Contact emailsft...@chromium.org, s...@chromium.org
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>>>> Explainer
>>>> https://github.com/tc39/proposal-intl-segmenter
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>>>> Specificationhttps://tc39.github.io/proposal-intl-segmenter/
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>>>> Design docs
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>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xugLpLmgRFnNXK8ztariTAbD2IXueDw1T3VNuuZCz8k/edit#heading=h.xgjl2srtytjt
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>>>> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1X2zBU3bZ4ergVMWfubCsdnHFzeaDgqiTRJVgvNGjQBs/edit#slide=id.p
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>>>> TAG reviewreviewed by ECMA402 and TC39
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>>>> SummaryIntl.Segmenter implements methods for finding the location of
>>>> boundaries in text, including grapheme, line, word and sentence boundary
>>>> analysis.
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>>>> Link to “Intent to Prototype” blink-dev discussion
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/muRQBwyzzPw/m/MXnlnDEdBgAJ
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>>>> Risks
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>>>> Interoperability and CompatibilityThe specification is moved to Stage
>>>> 3 in TC39 2020-Jul meeting with support from ECMA402.
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>>>> *Gecko*: In development (
>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1423593)
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>>> That issue seems stalled...
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>> Zibi (ECMA402 members from Mozilla) could you comment about your
>> understanding about how likely Gecko would support Intl.Segmenter?
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>>>> *WebKit*: No signal
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>>> Could you ask
>>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xkHRXnFS8GDqZi7E0SSbR3a7CZsGScdxPUWBsNgo-oo/edit#heading=h.tgzhprxcmw4u>
>>> for official signals from both?
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>> Mathias - could you help?
>> Ross / rkirsl...@gmail.com (TC39 member from Apple) could you comment
>> about your understanding about how likely Safari would support
>> Intl.Segmenter?
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> Note that I work for Sony, not Apple, but I do work on JSC and I can say
> that we have a finished implementation expected to land in the near future:
> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213638
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Sorry, my bad.

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>>>> *Web developers*: No signals
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>>> Who's asking for this? Why are we implementing? Do we believe it's
>>> something developers will use?
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>> This is really needed to replace the non-standard Intl.v8BreakIterator.
>> We somehow shipped a non standard one  Intl.v8BreakIterator and ECMA402 and
>> TC39 really think there is a need to
>> retire/obsolete/deprecated  Intl.v8BreakIterator but we need a standard one
>> first ship so we can tell the developer how to adopt the standard one.
>> According to
>> https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/556 
>> currently
>> 0.4% of all chrome page load use Intl.v8BreakIterator. and these are the
>> first target  we would them to move their code away from
>> Intl.v8BreakIterator to Intl.Segmenter . Even with just Chrome launch it,
>> it will be better that they stay using the chrome only Intl.v8BreakIterator
>> as today.
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>>>> ErgonomicsEngineer from Apple believe we should not add line break
>>>> support to the Intl.Segmenter because the developer may abuse the API and
>>>> perform text layout by themselves instead of depending on CSS. The line
>>>> break feature then were removed from the specification in the current 
>>>> shape.
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>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>> Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
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>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>> ?Yes https://github.com/tc39/test262/tree/master/test/intl402/Segmenter
>>>>
>>>> Tracking bughttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/v8/issues/detail?id=6891
>>>>
>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>> https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/6099397733515264
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