On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 13:58 -0400, sth wrote:
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> So, my esteemed partner (Zach Chambers) and I are on the hunt for a
> package to unify the various systems we use at ClearBearing to run our
> operations. We're currently using eGroupWare[1], RT[2], MediaWiki[3],
> QuickBooks Pro[4], and a custom app that we've developed in-house over
> the past nine years. Having disparate systems, of course, entails a
> certain amount of overhead (read: duplication of effort), as does the
> maintenance of our home-grown package.
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To your list of requirements, I'll add the ability to have clients log
in and work/ update their own tickets.

> [1] http://www.egroupware.org
> [2] http://www.bestpractical.com/rt
> [3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki
> [4] http://quickbooks.intuit.com
> [5] http://www.amicusattorney.com
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Probably not the most helpful post ever, but...
We run QB here ('cause the bookkeepers all know it).  I've toyed with
the idea of migrating to MyBooks Pro by Appgen (Java based, platform
neutral client, with Linux server database).  But there's no import from
QB and I just can't bring myself to start fresh.

We run a homegrown Ticketing app that we're in the process of
redeploying (insert jab about reinventing the wheel here).

Our groupware suite is Scalix 11.3 U1 (surprise), and I use Evolution
2.12.3 with the Scalix Evolution connector compiled from SVN.  It works
great, as long as I don't try to sync my Treo 650's calendar to
Evolution/ Scalix.  Then... not so much :(  On the whole, I *love* the
Evolution/Scalix stack.  I should get a caldav client for my palm and
then I'd be all set (opensync, maybe against Scalix CalDav?  Hrm... must
try that out...).  The nice thing about Scalix is that it happily
backends Outlook too for those (sick puppy) users who prefer a Winblows
desktop environment.

We use a bunch of random-ish other stuff as well, along with the usual
OpenOffice etc. desktop bundle.  We run our website on a custom CMS
framework that I wrote, rewrote, and rewrote again (and am probably
about to rewrite yet AGAIN... insert additional stab about reinventing
the wheel).

I've played with several CRM apps in the past, but none of them really
felt like 'the one'; there was always just enough customization work
needed that it was a shorter path to update our homegrown stuff.  And I
hate Web based email with a passion, even Zimbra.  I'll use it when I
don't have a thick client available, but I *strongly* prefer an
integrated app and the responsiveness that you simply can't get with
non-local apps.

The glaring gaps in our current stack are:
Mangeability (too damn many parts)
An easy and efficient  way to convert tickets to work units to bills

All of this is a *very* long winded way of saying that we're on the same
hunt, and for many of the same reasons.  Maintaining our homegrown stuff
can feel like a full time job in of itself, which is clearly not a good
way to keep a company on the positive side of the cashflow sheet :)

I've looked at all the regular stuff, and tried several out: Trac
(didn't like it at all), dotproject (works for some things, but the
ticketing SUCKS), bought SupportSystem (lamp ticketing) from a company
in Europe, it's pretty and it works ok, but is only ticketing, no
billing, and really wants to be a management interface to working
tickets via email.  No ability to easily convert a ticket to a .pdf to
give the client.

So, if there's a silver bullet out there, I'd love to see it too :)

Rubin


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