On 2/26/06, Jonathan Revusky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Towards the end of the skit it is revealed that Cyril is some kid's pet
> hamster.
>
> Surely you see my point. The very "seriousness", the formality around
> the pet hamster's funeral makes it far more of a joke than it could ever
> be otherwise. Likewise, the "concept of release" can be serious and all,
> but if the thing being released is something of a joke, some abandonware
> that was left in some half-baked state, doesn't all the "seriousness"
> just make the whole thing even more of a joke?

It doesn't seem like a joke to Cyril's owner. Users of DVSL won't be
happy to learn that the binary jar in the Maven repository they have
been depending on is not reproduceable; there's no source and there's
no tag in CVS.

There's an informal promise from the ASF (and open source in general)
that binaries are released with source; there's no promise that
projects will be kept in active development when the community is not
interested.

Fortunately your use of the term 'abandonware' above makes my point
for me - there is no such thing as abandonware in open source, a user
is free to continue on if the community in general stops being
interested. However in this case, it is abandonware. There was a
binary-only release (in fact, 4 of them, with 6 dated snapshot
releases) - meaning the users are dependent on shifting sand when it
comes to supporting themselves.

Hen

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