Even if you did update the inventory, if the tape has not been expired
(images no longer valid) Netbackup will know about the data and not
overwrite the tape.

The only issue would be if you had a tape that had already expired,
which you put into the library to restore from.

You would have to do an import on the tape before you could restore from
it, so in the timeframe between injecting the tape in the library, and
doing the import, there is a small window during which Netbackup could
overwrite the tape, assuming you did not write protect or freeze the
cart.


Sounds like a TSM zealot spreading FUD about NBU.

Paul

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Randy Samora
> Sent: January 15, 2008 11:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape
> 
> 
> Without an inventory being run, NetBackup wouldn't know the tape was
> there so it shouldn't overwrite it.  If you are putting a 
> "full tape" in
> the library, I'm assuming the tape is being used for a 
> restore?  If so,
> write protecting the tape seems to be the easiest solution.  The only
> other reason I can think of to put a full tape back into the 
> library is
> so that you can reuse it in which case you want NBU to 
> overwrite it.  Or
> maybe I'm missing something.
> 
> Thanks,
> Randy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> Hi
> We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back 
> that NBU can
> accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
> after putting full tape in library.
>                                  If that is true, how can we avoide ?
> Your help is very much appreciated.
> 
> THX
> 
> 
> 
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> >    3. Re: which clients datas on which tape (Michael Graff Andersen)
> >    4. Backing up Leopard clients (Don Klebba)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:33:33 +0100
> > From: "POUSSARD, Gilles \(APX SYNSTAR\)" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape
> > To: <veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
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> > 
> >     Hello,
> > 
> >     Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which
> tape.
> > 
> >     For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
> located with which retentions
> > 
> >     Thanks for your help.
> > 
> >     Gilles.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 01:42:14 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Murtuja Khokhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > 
> > All,
> >    
> >   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions
> >    
> >    
> >   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
> >   I have specified SBT_TAPE
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >   
> > Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
> > SBT_TAPE. I am also disk in master server and using the same thing. 
> > 
> > Thanks & Regards,
> > 
> > Ratheesh R Das
> > M I N D S P E E D Technologies
> > Storage and Backup | 866-772-4252 ext 2301
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >         Murtuja Khokhar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
> 01/11/2008 06:14
> PM 
> >             To
> >   Michael Graff Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu       cc
> >         Subject
> >   Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
> >           
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server 
> ..on disk
> > 
> > Michael Graff Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
> > e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
> > 
> > Regards
> > Michael
> > 
> > 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar :
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas
> Netbackup
> > > master and media Server is running on Windows 2003 server.
> > >
> > > Oracle backup is stored into Oracle server in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs.
> > >
> > > But I want to store backup files into Netbackup server.So 
> how I can
> do this.
> > >
> > > Some more information
> > >
> > > Os : Solaris 10 (sparc 64bit)
> > > Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition
> > > Veritas Netbackup 6.0 MP4
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:08:39 +0100
> > From: "Michael Graff Andersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] which clients datas on which tape
> > To: "POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > Hello
> > 
> > Think than bpimagelist -client <CLIENT_NAME> -media -U or 
> -L will give
> > some of what you want
> > 
> > Regards
> > Michael
> > 
> > 2008/1/14, POUSSARD, Gilles (APX SYNSTAR)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >        Hello,
> > >
> > >        Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on
> which tape.
> > >
> > >        For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
> located with which retentions
> > >
> > >        Thanks for your help.
> > >
> > >        Gilles.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:11:22 -0500
> > From: Don Klebba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Leopard clients
> > To: <veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="US-ASCII"
> > 
> > I recently upgraded one of my Mac clients from Mac OS 10.4.11 to
> 10.5.1
> > (Leopard). I'm running netbackup 6.5.1 on both the master server and
> the
> > Mac
> > client. The Mac client was able to backup before going to 
> 10.5.1., now
> > I'm
> > getting 54 errors, unable to connect to client. I'm no 
> longer able to
> > telnet
> > to port 13782 on the Mac.
> > 
> > Does anyone have any ideas on how I can resolve this?
> > -- 
> > Don Klebba
> > Quicken Loans
> > Storage Management Team
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > phone: (734)805-7791
> > cell: (734)634-7486 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------
> > 
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:25:00 -0600
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Leopard clients
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> <veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
> > Message-ID:
> >
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> .nmfco.com
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> >     
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > 
> > Don,
> > 
> > With the release of OS X 10.5, Apple removed all functionality of
> inetd
> > (and others) and replaced it with its launchd process.   Below is a
> link
> > to read more information about launchd.      With the removal of
> inetd,
> > the bpcd and vnetd process no longer listen on their 
> respective ports
> > based on a 10.4 config.  
> > 
> >
> http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.21/21.06/launchd/i
> ndex.html 
> > 
> > At last check, Symantec currently doesn't provide support for 10.5.
> > They will have to create "plist" entries for the NBU client 
> processes
> to
> > replace the /etc/inetd.conf definitions.  
> > 
> >
> http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_
> Enterprise
> > _Server/278064.pdf
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Mike McLain
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don
> > Klebba
> > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:11 AM
> > To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Leopard clients
> > 
> > I recently upgraded one of my Mac clients from Mac OS 10.4.11 to
> 10.5.1
> > (Leopard). I'm running netbackup 6.5.1 on both the master server and
> the
> > Mac
> > client. The Mac client was able to backup before going to 
> 10.5.1., now
> > I'm
> > getting 54 errors, unable to connect to client. I'm no 
> longer able to
> > telnet
> > to port 13782 on the Mac.
> > 
> > Does anyone have any ideas on how I can resolve this?
> > -- 
> > Don Klebba
> > Quicken Loans
> > Storage Management Team
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > phone: (734)805-7791
> > cell: (734)634-7486 
> > 
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