I agree that this is the proper behavior, but I've never tested it with
TSM tapes.  I would put a TSM that you CAN delete in there and try to
label it in NBU via bplabel without the -o option and see what happens.
I agree with Gregory that it should not overwrite it (unless you specify
the -o option).

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Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies 

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Gregory
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 12:41 PM
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Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

NBU shouldn't use an outside tape with data on it:

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/249632.htm

These are usually tapes written outside of NetBackup that have found
their way into the library. By default, NetBackup will only write to a
blank media or other NetBackup media. Other media types (DBR, TAR, CPIO,
ANSI, MTF1 and recycled Backup Exec BE-MTF1 media) will be frozen as a
safety measure. This behavior can be changed with the following
procedure:

UNIX
To allow NetBackup to overwrite foreign media, add the following to
/usr/openv/netbackup/bp.conf for the media server in question:

ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = DBR 
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = TAR
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = CPIO
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = ANSI
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = MTF1
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = BE-MTF1
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = AOS/VS
ALLOW_MEDIA_OVERWRITE = RS-MTF1

Stop and restart the NetBackup daemons for the changes to take effect

 

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Samora
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

Will NetBackup recognize that it is a TSM tape and that there is data on
there written by TSM?

Thanks,
Randy


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In addition to what everyone else said, if you put a tape in the robot
and do not do an inventory in NetBackup, when NetBackup attempts to
mount the tape that it THINKS is there, it will read the header of the
tape and realize that the media-id on the header of the tape doesn't
match what it thinks is in the library, so it will freeze that tape and
not use it.  NetBackup does several checks to make sure it doesn't write
over a tape that is not expired.

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Subject: [Veritas-bu] NBU overwriting data on Tape

Hi
We are planning to move from TSM to NBU. We heard draw back that NBU can
accidently overwrite data on tape if tape library inventory is not run
after putting full tape in library.
                                 If that is true, how can we avoide ?
Your help is very much appreciated.

THX




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>       Hello,
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>       Did someone wrote a script to check which clients are on which
tape.
> 
>       For example, I would know for client A, where his datas are
located with which retentions
> 
>       Thanks for your help.
> 
>       Gilles.
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> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Oracle RMAN backup using Netbackup
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> All,
>    
>   Thank you very much.My problem is got resolved by to actions
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>    
>   link Oracle with NetBackup for Oracle 
>   I have specified SBT_TAPE
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Even if you are using the disk on master server, the option would be
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> 
> No, I want to store backup files on Netbackup master server ..on disk
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> Michael Graff Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Get your DBA's to change the channels to tape in the rman scripts
> e.g allocate channel t1 type 'SBT_TAPE';
> 
> Regards
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> 
> 2008/1/11, Murtuja Khokhar :
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am taking backup of Oracle DB using Veritas Netbackup.Veritas
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> > Oracle : Oracle 10.2.0.3.0 Standard Edition
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> I recently upgraded one of my Mac clients from Mac OS 10.4.11 to
10.5.1
> (Leopard). I'm running netbackup 6.5.1 on both the master server and
the
> Mac
> client. The Mac client was able to backup before going to 10.5.1., now
> I'm
> getting 54 errors, unable to connect to client. I'm no longer able to
> telnet
> to port 13782 on the Mac.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas on how I can resolve this?
> -- 
> Don Klebba
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> Don,
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> With the release of OS X 10.5, Apple removed all functionality of
inetd
> (and others) and replaced it with its launchd process.   Below is a
link
> to read more information about launchd.      With the removal of
inetd,
> the bpcd and vnetd process no longer listen on their respective ports
> based on a 10.4 config.  
> 
>
http://www.mactech.com/articles/mactech/Vol.21/21.06/launchd/index.html 
> 
> At last check, Symantec currently doesn't provide support for 10.5.
> They will have to create "plist" entries for the NBU client processes
to
> replace the /etc/inetd.conf definitions.  
> 
>
http://ftp.support.veritas.com/pub/support/products/NetBackup_Enterprise
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> 
> 
> 
> Mike McLain
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> 
> I recently upgraded one of my Mac clients from Mac OS 10.4.11 to
10.5.1
> (Leopard). I'm running netbackup 6.5.1 on both the master server and
the
> Mac
> client. The Mac client was able to backup before going to 10.5.1., now
> I'm
> getting 54 errors, unable to connect to client. I'm no longer able to
> telnet
> to port 13782 on the Mac.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas on how I can resolve this?
> -- 
> Don Klebba
> Quicken Loans
> Storage Management Team
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> phone: (734)805-7791
> cell: (734)634-7486 
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