See...that's the thing.  Symantec is not straight forward with the
proper Master Server hardware recommendations.  It's side stepped
answers and vague responses.  I guess the fact is, they don't really
know what to recommend with your Netbackup domain reaches a certain
size, and load.
 
We didn't have the same issues under Netbackup 6.0 MP4.  But at the same
time, we've ran Netbackup 6.0 MP5 for some time before we actually saw
serious system performance issues.  All four of the v440's 1.5Ghz CPU's
get pegged out with dozens of bpdbm processes running.  Considering the
problems many people have talked about concerning bpdbm and 6.0 MP5, I'm
moving to Netbackup 6.5.1.  Until I exhaust "software patches and
upgrades" I will be unable to get management to swing for a shiny new
server.
 
--
Mike Sponsler
 
 
 
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From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 12:43 PM
To: Jeff Lightner
Cc: Tharp, Trey; Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpdbm acting wacky -- NB 6.0 MP5


On 4/29/08, Jeff Lightner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

        Uh oh - you've dared to say something negative about Aptare -
that
        simply is NOT done in this forum.  :-)


It certainly is.  If there's something we don't like about them, we
should be open to discussing it here (or on their own forums, although
this is more independent).

Let's just say they're not on my favorite vendor list with their 6.5
upgrade...  And yeah, I know they're listening/reading but I'm not
telling them anything they don't already know.

As for StorageConsole creating load on the master, of course that's
going to be true.  You can't do the work any other way. 

Getting back to the original poster, a v440 with 16GB of RAM managing 60
media/SAN media servers sounds like it's way underpowered to me.  I
believe this server was released over 5 years ago...  You'd probably be
able to roll in a T2000 with way more power and pay for it on the first
year maintenance costs alone.

   .../Ed



        -----Original Message-----
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        
        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tharp,
        Trey
        Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 11:49 PM
        To: Sponsler, Michael; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
        Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] bpdbm acting wacky -- NB 6.0 MP5
        
        The bpdbm parent process spawns a child for just about
everything it
        does. So, if you have script or reporting tools that are running
        bpimagelist, bpmedialist, bpmedia, bpexpdate, etc. it will
create child
        bpdbm processes for all of those.
        
        Aptare is infamous for creating lots of these and driving load
up on a
        master server.
        
        -Trey
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
        Sponsler, Michael
        Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 9:05 AM
        To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
        Subject: [Veritas-bu] bpdbm acting wacky -- NB 6.0 MP5
        
        Solaris 10, Netbackup 6.0 MP5 Master server.
        
        My bpdbm process is acting wacky (I think...I've never noticed
this
        behavior before).  I've actually got 14 bpdbm processes running,
but
        also 38 active jobs currently.  The logs for my in
netbackup/logs/bpdbm
        are very large...around 2 gigs per day's log file.  I'm seeing
such
        inforation in there as:
        
        image_by_file: processing file
        
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/<hostname>/1157000000/<hostname>-Oracle-B
        ackup_1157475027_UBAK
        expdate: no match for
        
/usr/openv/netbackup/db/images/<hostname>/12030000000/<hoststname>-Oracl
        e-Backup_1203468053_INCR
        
        by bp.conf file has:
        VERBOSE = 1
        ENABLE_ROBUST_LOGGING = NO
        
        But the thing is, I've noticed some information in my bpdbm logs
talking
        about Informix backups that we haven't done in almost 2 years
since
        we've moved to Oracle.  The backups are long since expired...so
why is
        Netbackup processing those files?
        
        On my master server, I'm running Solaris 10 on a v440 w/ 16 gigs
of RAM,
        4 CPU's running @ 1593 Mhz.  I do have a large netbackup
domain...60
        Media & SAN Media servers, ~30 clients...but my Master server
sees
        constant 100% cpu utilization.  The Server slows down, and locks
up.
        Could this be related to bpdbm checking all the files in the
catalog,
        and spawning so many bpdbm processes?
        
        --
        Mike Sponsler
        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        
        


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