Few different solution options I can think of.  I don't know what your 
underlying disk array tech is so I'm going to mention things I have experience 
with - maybe they'll work for you, maybe not...

Option 1
Leverage underlying disk array technology to move data around. In the case of 
EMC you might consider BCVs that can incrementally update data to completely 
separate disks.  You would only need to quiesce Oracle (hotbackupmode) for 
minutes or less while you split off the BCVs and then import/mount them on a 
media server that could then spin to tape.  Downside to this is that in the 
case of Oracle, most files get modified and captured by NBU even if only a 
small amount of change occurred within.

Option 2
Use Oracle RMAN with the DataDomain Incremental Merge option.  This involves a 
one-time full and indefinite incremental RMAN backups to a DataDomain 
repository (typically an NFS mount).  By leveraging some data movement tech 
within the array in combination with RMAN Block Change Tracking, you can have 
incremental backups indefinitely.  Downside to this is if your database is 
encrypted, you'll lose out on the de-duplication of the DataDomain (but it's 
great not having tape).

Option 3
If you are using NetApp FAS storage, you can leverage Snapshot & Snapvault 
technology to perform incremental backups at the array level.  High level it 
works like this- Hotbackupmode, snapshot primary storage, out of hotbackupmode, 
incremental snapvault update from primary array to secondary array, snapshot on 
secondary array.  Downside is you need another array but it is probably cheaper 
disk (1TB SATA or greater) but upside is traffic is between arrays and no tape. 
 You can also retain the data for longer on the secondary array where your 
cheaper disk is.

You'll notice options 2 & 3 don't even use NBU at all - there are a few use 
cases that NBU can't address.  Just suggesting you don't limit your solution 
assessment to NBU only.


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Oracle is on here as well :-(

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I agree that synthetic backups are good, but only if you run file backups.
If the system has an oracle, the synthetic backups are useless.



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I agree. We use synthetic fulls quite a bit.

They work really well for large filesystems that have relatively small 
incremental backups.
If you're going to tape you'll need at least 2 free tape drives for the 
duration of the synthetic full backup, one for the last full backup and the 
other for the one you're constructing.
Also it's best if you're able to send incremental backups to staging disk and 
they remain on the staging disk when the synthetic full is being constructed, 
it saves on tape loading and positioning time.
If the incremental backups are going to tape avoid multiplexing them, it'll 
slow things down.
Also if you're going to tape when doing the first conventional full backup 
don't multiplex it - this will make doing the first synthetic full backup slow.

Mark

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I would look at synthetics ... not quite as large as you, but I backup around 
8TBs on one linux (RHEL 4) server over the weekend (every weekend) and it 
completes in well under 24 hours.  (About 16-20 hours from memory)

The very first backup has to be a full, but once that is out of the way, you 
should be able to do a full synthetic every weekend in well under 48 hours (I'm 
going on what I have above so is just a guess - you may be much faster than my 
infrastructure as its nothing flash ... though it is completely gigabit)

I should add that I've been using synthetics on this particular server for 
around 4.5 years now, and they are reliable and fast - unless you have to 
"re-seed" the synthetic with an initial full backup; I have had a few go bad 
such that I have had to re-seed the backup, but that's been rare and only 
happened 2-3 times in all that time.  HIGHLY recommended for large backups.

Cheers
Crowey




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All
I am hoping you can help....

Im not too familiar with Linux, but we have a RedHat Box, that is a VM Guest on 
an ESX Host, that has RDM's totalling 14TB

The backups are done over the LAN - Painfully slow as you can imagine.

Im wondering what options I have in terms of trying to improve performance for 
this client. So far its taking close to 3 days to run.
It is on a 1GB Network, as I understand. But does anyone have any suggestions?

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