I'll be there. Jorde
On 2 dec. 2010, at 18:36, Dirk Stoop <d...@madebysofa.com> wrote: > Hey Jorde, Good point, > > I'd love to set up a Versions users meetup in Amsterdam. > > Anyone else interested? > > - Dirk > > On Dec 2, 6:09 pm, Jorde Vorstenbosch <jordevorstenbo...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Dirk, >> >> I dislike the way you think, >> Why are you excluding others from this beer drinking event? >> >> Jorde >> >> P.s I still have to get version 1.1 and check it. >> >> On 2 dec. 2010, at 17:57, Dirk Stoop <d...@madebysofa.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hey Marijn, >> >>> I like the way you think, especially that last sentence. >> >>> Drop me a line by email and let's meet up sometime. >> >>> - Dirk >> >>> On Dec 2, 3:19 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Dirk, >> >>>> I'm sorry, I have a lot of trouble with your suggested solution and >>>> your argumentation. >>>> If I wanted to create scripts to enhance my workflow I'd probably not >>>> want to use a GUI in the first place. >>>> And wouldn't you say that the interface is already too cluttered if >>>> comparisons can be initiated from so many places in the app? Who >>>> knows... >>>> I don't know cocoa but my guess is that adding an extra menu "open >>>> with" shouldn't be that hard. >>>> Or adding a menu when you hold down the remote/local changes button >>>> showing you a list of editors to select from. >>>> I find it odd that thus far I'm the only one that has requested this >>>> "feature"/"reported this bug" but I guess there aren't a lot of people >>>> merging since it's not supported from within Versions. >>>> I understand that managing expectations is hard and that development >>>> in general is even harder. >>>> Though IMO I've always gotten the feeling that 1.1 would be a >>>> significant upgrade. >>>> I love the fact that I can organize my bookmarks in folders and the >>>> new timeline view is a big improvement. >>>> But the fact that you still can't switch between "show all" and >>>> "changed" view without losing the way you had expanded folders is >>>> really annoying. >>>> Maybe that's just me but most of the issues that are important >>>> regarding workflow have not yet been resolved which is really too bad >>>> if your waiting a year for an update. >> >>>> Again this is starting to look way too much like a rant which is not >>>> why I'm here. Apologies for that, maybe grabbing a beer together would >>>> be a better forum for this discussion :-) >> >>>> Kindest regards, >> >>>> Marijn >> >>>> On Dec 2, 2:09 pm, Dirk Stoop <d...@madebysofa.com> wrote: >> >>>>> Hi Marijn, >> >>>>> With the many places in the app that let you open a comparison, just >>>>> adding this one 'simple feature' is very hard to do without making >>>>> Versions' interface more complicated. >> >>>>> Secondly, so far you're the only person who requested this feature. We >>>>> prioritize the features we implement by which ones – we believe – have >>>>> the biggest impact. >> >>>>> This one didn't make the cut primarily for the first reason — we don't >>>>> want to clutter Versions' interface and destroy the best thing about >>>>> Versions, but also for the second. >> >>>>> I think the real solution to this particular feature request is >>>>> scriptability, maybe similar to how some apps let you add your own >>>>> scripts to a menu somewhere in the app (complete with keyboard >>>>> shortcuts). That's a major undertaking, and therefore will have to be >>>>> weighed against other 'big features', but it's a lot more appealing to >>>>> me than adding an option to temporarily switch diffing apps for every >>>>> comparison everywhere in the app. >> >>>>> I hope this sheds some light on why this 'one simple issue' hasn't >>>>> been 'resolved' in 1.1. >> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> - Dirk >> >>>>> the Versions team >> >>>>> On Dec 2, 12:15 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> I'm really disappointed to see that this issue has not been resolved >>>>>> in 1.1 >> >>>>>> Was my problem set unclear? >>>>>> To me it seems pretty straightforward that one would love to merge >>>>>> with FileMerge and view changes with Kaleidoscope. >> >>>>>> The workflow to support that right now is non-existent at best. >> >>>>>> Damn, I hate the fact that I've become such a negative nancy when it >>>>>> comes to Versions... >> >>>>>> Kindest regards, >> >>>>>> Marijn >> >>>>>> On Nov 18, 12:22 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> It's not as much the support for Kaleidoscope itself but more for >>>>>>> having the option to switch between filemerge en Kaleidoscope. Using >>>>>>> the former for merging and the latter for viewing changes. >> >>>>>>> Anyway, I'm abandoning SVN in favor of Git. This is only a concern for >>>>>>> me on the project I'm about to finish. I merely wanted to point out >>>>>>> the problem set this creates for people that have to merge changes now >>>>>>> and again when they use Kaleidoscope. >> >>>>>>> Kindest regards, >> >>>>>>> Marijn >> >>>>>>> On Nov 17, 9:27 pm, Rob Rye <rowen...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> I have licenses for both. I don't really see any significant >>>>>>>> difference in the support for using Kaleidoscope in Cornerstone as >>>>>>>> compared with Versions. >> >>>>>>>> Rob >>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Marijn wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> My trial copy of CS expired so I cannot confirm for 100% but as I >>>>>>>>> remember it has a "Compare with" option on a per file bases. >> >>>>>>>>> Exactly what we need in Versions... >> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 10:04 pm, Dirk Stoop <d...@madebysofa.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how does Cornerstone have >>>>>>>>>> better support for Kaleidoscope than Versions? >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> - Dirk >> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>> Funny, the competition has better support for using Kaleidoscope >>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>> Sofa itself... >> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone >> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 4:49 pm, Quinn Taylor <quinntay...@mac.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't assume it won't be in the future. This email group is not >>>>>>>>>>>> the only way to get the devs' attention, or to judge what will and >>>>>>>>>>>> won't be supported. Check out the FAQ and email them directly here: >> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/support >> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Quinn >> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Marijn wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I take it this is not supported and given the lack of team >>>>>>>>>>>>> response it won't be in the future either... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 7:08 pm, Quinn Taylor <quinntay...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's true, no merge on the feature list. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/ >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notice the emphasis on *spotting* changes quickly. Merge is not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet supported, but I imagine it will have to in order to survive >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and thrive amid competitors which *do* support merging. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Quinn >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2010, at 9:58 AM, pSouper wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really? Kaleidoscope doesn't merge? what good is a diff tool >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't merge? i'd be surpised and shocked i it didn't allow you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merge files - i've just bought it but haven't got around to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet so i'd go as far as being discussted... i'm popping off to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> test it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 6:43 am, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *cough* >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 29, 5:17 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm having a little workflow problem with Kaleidoscope. >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Kaleidoscope doesn't have merge support >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (WTF????). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I often need to merge changes, so I'll have to do that with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good ol' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filemerge. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I switch easily between filemerge and kaleidoscope as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viewer from the interface in Versions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Going into the preference pane every time seems a bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cumbersome... >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindest regards, >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marijn >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> smime.p7s >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4KViewDownload >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "Versions" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. >> >>>>>>>>>>>> smime.p7s >>>>>>>>>>>> 4KViewDownload >> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "Versions" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group >>>>>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Versions" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Versions" group. > To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Versions" group. 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