Sounds great! On Dec 2, 6:43 pm, Jorde Vorstenbosch <jordevorstenbo...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'll be there. > > Jorde > > On 2 dec. 2010, at 18:36, Dirk Stoop <d...@madebysofa.com> wrote: > > > > > Hey Jorde, Good point, > > > I'd love to set up a Versions users meetup in Amsterdam. > > > Anyone else interested? > > > - Dirk > > > On Dec 2, 6:09 pm, Jorde Vorstenbosch <jordevorstenbo...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> Dirk, > > >> I dislike the way you think, > >> Why are you excluding others from this beer drinking event? > > >> Jorde > > >> P.s I still have to get version 1.1 and check it. > > >> On 2 dec. 2010, at 17:57, Dirk Stoop <d...@madebysofa.com> wrote: > > >>> Hey Marijn, > > >>> I like the way you think, especially that last sentence. > > >>> Drop me a line by email and let's meet up sometime. > > >>> - Dirk > > >>> On Dec 2, 3:19 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> Hi Dirk, > > >>>> I'm sorry, I have a lot of trouble with your suggested solution and > >>>> your argumentation. > >>>> If I wanted to create scripts to enhance my workflow I'd probably not > >>>> want to use a GUI in the first place. > >>>> And wouldn't you say that the interface is already too cluttered if > >>>> comparisons can be initiated from so many places in the app? Who > >>>> knows... > >>>> I don't know cocoa but my guess is that adding an extra menu "open > >>>> with" shouldn't be that hard. > >>>> Or adding a menu when you hold down the remote/local changes button > >>>> showing you a list of editors to select from. > >>>> I find it odd that thus far I'm the only one that has requested this > >>>> "feature"/"reported this bug" but I guess there aren't a lot of people > >>>> merging since it's not supported from within Versions. > >>>> I understand that managing expectations is hard and that development > >>>> in general is even harder. > >>>> Though IMO I've always gotten the feeling that 1.1 would be a > >>>> significant upgrade. > >>>> I love the fact that I can organize my bookmarks in folders and the > >>>> new timeline view is a big improvement. > >>>> But the fact that you still can't switch between "show all" and > >>>> "changed" view without losing the way you had expanded folders is > >>>> really annoying. > >>>> Maybe that's just me but most of the issues that are important > >>>> regarding workflow have not yet been resolved which is really too bad > >>>> if your waiting a year for an update. > > >>>> Again this is starting to look way too much like a rant which is not > >>>> why I'm here. Apologies for that, maybe grabbing a beer together would > >>>> be a better forum for this discussion :-) > > >>>> Kindest regards, > > >>>> Marijn > > >>>> On Dec 2, 2:09 pm, Dirk Stoop <d...@madebysofa.com> wrote: > > >>>>> Hi Marijn, > > >>>>> With the many places in the app that let you open a comparison, just > >>>>> adding this one 'simple feature' is very hard to do without making > >>>>> Versions' interface more complicated. > > >>>>> Secondly, so far you're the only person who requested this feature. We > >>>>> prioritize the features we implement by which ones – we believe – have > >>>>> the biggest impact. > > >>>>> This one didn't make the cut primarily for the first reason — we don't > >>>>> want to clutter Versions' interface and destroy the best thing about > >>>>> Versions, but also for the second. > > >>>>> I think the real solution to this particular feature request is > >>>>> scriptability, maybe similar to how some apps let you add your own > >>>>> scripts to a menu somewhere in the app (complete with keyboard > >>>>> shortcuts). That's a major undertaking, and therefore will have to be > >>>>> weighed against other 'big features', but it's a lot more appealing to > >>>>> me than adding an option to temporarily switch diffing apps for every > >>>>> comparison everywhere in the app. > > >>>>> I hope this sheds some light on why this 'one simple issue' hasn't > >>>>> been 'resolved' in 1.1. > > >>>>> Cheers, > >>>>> - Dirk > > >>>>> the Versions team > > >>>>> On Dec 2, 12:15 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> I'm really disappointed to see that this issue has not been resolved > >>>>>> in 1.1 > > >>>>>> Was my problem set unclear? > >>>>>> To me it seems pretty straightforward that one would love to merge > >>>>>> with FileMerge and view changes with Kaleidoscope. > > >>>>>> The workflow to support that right now is non-existent at best. > > >>>>>> Damn, I hate the fact that I've become such a negative nancy when it > >>>>>> comes to Versions... > > >>>>>> Kindest regards, > > >>>>>> Marijn > > >>>>>> On Nov 18, 12:22 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>> It's not as much the support for Kaleidoscope itself but more for > >>>>>>> having the option to switch between filemerge en Kaleidoscope. Using > >>>>>>> the former for merging and the latter for viewing changes. > > >>>>>>> Anyway, I'm abandoning SVN in favor of Git. This is only a concern for > >>>>>>> me on the project I'm about to finish. I merely wanted to point out > >>>>>>> the problem set this creates for people that have to merge changes now > >>>>>>> and again when they use Kaleidoscope. > > >>>>>>> Kindest regards, > > >>>>>>> Marijn > > >>>>>>> On Nov 17, 9:27 pm, Rob Rye <rowen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> I have licenses for both. I don't really see any significant > >>>>>>>> difference in the support for using Kaleidoscope in Cornerstone as > >>>>>>>> compared with Versions. > > >>>>>>>> Rob > >>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 8:03 AM, Marijn wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> My trial copy of CS expired so I cannot confirm for 100% but as I > >>>>>>>>> remember it has a "Compare with" option on a per file bases. > > >>>>>>>>> Exactly what we need in Versions... > > >>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 10:04 pm, Dirk Stoop <d...@madebysofa.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> Maybe I'm missing something, but exactly how does Cornerstone have > >>>>>>>>>> better support for Kaleidoscope than Versions? > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, > >>>>>>>>>> - Dirk > > >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 28, 7:44 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>> Funny, the competition has better support for using Kaleidoscope > >>>>>>>>>>> than > >>>>>>>>>>> Sofa itself... > > >>>>>>>>>>>http://www.zennaware.com/cornerstone > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 4:49 pm, Quinn Taylor <quinntay...@mac.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Don't assume it won't be in the future. This email group is not > >>>>>>>>>>>> the only way to get the devs' attention, or to judge what will > >>>>>>>>>>>> and won't be supported. Check out the FAQ and email them > >>>>>>>>>>>> directly here: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/support > > >>>>>>>>>>>> - Quinn > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, Marijn wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I take it this is not supported and given the lack of team > >>>>>>>>>>>>> response it won't be in the future either... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 7:08 pm, Quinn Taylor <quinntay...@mac.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's true, no merge on the feature list. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.kaleidoscopeapp.com/ > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notice the emphasis on *spotting* changes quickly. Merge is > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not yet supported, but I imagine it will have to in order to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> survive and thrive amid competitors which *do* support merging. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Quinn > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 11, 2010, at 9:58 AM, pSouper wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really? Kaleidoscope doesn't merge? what good is a diff tool > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't merge? i'd be surpised and shocked i it didn't allow > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> merge files - i've just bought it but haven't got around to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opening > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet so i'd go as far as being discussted... i'm popping off > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to test it > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 6:43 am, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *cough* > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 29, 5:17 pm, Marijn <marijn.huizendv...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm having a little workflow problem with Kaleidoscope. > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Kaleidoscope doesn't have merge support > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (WTF????). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I often need to merge changes, so I'll have to do that with > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good ol' > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filemerge. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I switch easily between filemerge and kaleidoscope > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as diff > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> viewer from the interface in Versions? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Going into the preference pane every time seems a bit > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cumbersome... > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindest regards, > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marijn > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> smime.p7s > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4KViewDownload > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "Versions" group. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>>>>>>>>> versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group > >>>>>>>>>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. > > >>>>>>>>>>>> smime.p7s > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4KViewDownload > > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>>>>> Groups "Versions" group. > >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>>>>> versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group > >>>>>>>>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "Versions" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Versions" group. > > To post to this group, send email to versi...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > versions+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/versions?hl=en.
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