No, not NUFF said..................

Im afraid I have to agree with Bill et al.

Ive not participated much over the last year or so, mainly because of the 
non-fly tying related material.
I realise that this is a mainly US of A based group, and so topics for 
discussion will likely be related to what is pertinant to US folk but obviously 
there will be some US folk not interseted in specific topics.

8 years ago I signed up for a fly tying forum, not anything else and so, 
despite the tying gems that I still read in my daily review of posts, I am sad 
to say that I am going to unsubscribe. 

I have my own interests and one of them is most certainly not america's 
involvement in a war. If it was, I am sure that there are plenty more forums 
that would cater to me. I could come out strongly and tell you all exactly what 
I think of it, but then i'd wouldnt have a leg to stand on re: this mail.

I could also have simply unsubscribed and said nothing, Im sure not many would 
have noticed, but I felt it was necessary to at least back up the call for a 
return to a more fly-tying related forum..........as it was in the past. This 
WAS, in my opinion, the best forum related to fly tying and fishing on the web. 
I have enjoyed the banter, the jokes, and participating in some fantastic fly 
swaps, but I draw my line at listening to war related stories.

Yes, everyone is entitled post a pic of a grandson et cetera, but not when 
there is a political bent behind it. And even then it takes from the fly tying 
topics.

I will say a prayer, but it is going to be for an end to this and all 
unnecessary righteous acts of violence.

It is obviously hard for some to agree with, and that is certainly 
understandable if you have spent and risked life and limb for your country. 
This just isnt the forum for it.

Good luck to you all.




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From: Bill and Tina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, 24 October, 2008 0:49:32
Subject: [VFB] Re: for fly fishing/tying discussion only - DUH !

 
I agree Jay and everyone else Fly Fishing
and Tying is why I joined the list not prayer groups or political rantings. I’ve
been a member for over 8 years and I do not participate much anymore because of
all discussions of other subjects I don’t come to the list for birthday
updates, prayer lists, sport team discussions etc. 
 
I joined for Fly Fishing Stuff so if this
is a prayer list I’ll have to say bye.
 
Bill

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From:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
Of Jimmy D. Moore
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008
3:58 PM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: for fly
fishing/tying discussion only - DUH !
 
I've been a member of the VFB for 10 + years. And . . . .we've always
treated each other as family, including births, deaths, birthdays and other
info that friends pass along to each other. I said it once before when I was
the MODERATOR of this list and I'll say it again. All work and no play makes
for a miserable exixtence. Likewise, Posts limited strictly to fly fishing /
tying makes for a very dull list.  Dull lists are ones that lose
membership. We gain a few members and we lose a few members.  Nothing wrong
with that!  I for one welcome a little "banter" among members
and also short family updates.  Hey, don't tell a grandpaw that he can't
let the list know he's just become a grandfather.

Nuff Said ?!?!?!

JIMMY D. MOORE
VFB Moderator Emeritus

P.S. You migh not see many posts from our list owner, Byard Miller, but I
garon-damn-tee you that Byard is aware of what transpires on this list. 

J Paulson wrote:


We must stop this discussion right now. I'm sure the only view we *all* 
share is that we want to talk about flyfishing. The other stuff does not 
belong and nothing drives members away quicker. Is this group moderated???
  
Jay
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:43 PM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request
  
  
  
Jeff: I hear ya.. And I'm glad your son, and others like him fight the bad
guys over there, so we don't have to fight them HERE, Chuck
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Frye" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request
  
  
    
Bill, that is one of the most intellectually dishonest posts ever on this
list. You state your leftist position and then tell everybody to keep it
about fishing and then apologize for the rant. The alternative would be 
to
not hit the send button.
  
On a more topic related note, I have
 some pics of my son and his Army
buddies fishing one of the palace ponds in
 Baghdad . I also have a cool
photo of him following through on a golf shot hit from one of the stone
portals of the same palace. It was shot from behind to make him a
silhouette with that pond in the distance.
  
Thanks to everyone that does what they can to keep troop morale high.
  
  
--- On Thu, 10/23/08, Bill and Tina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
      
From: Bill and Tina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 9:41 AM
Jimi, Will do. Our people need our
 help.
  
BUT that solder shouldn't have even been in this
illegal war we are
conducting in
 Iraq . I blame our MIS-leaders. Everyone
should be flaming our
congress to get our boys home. That is what will HELP these
solders.

  
This is the last time responding to such a post... This has
NOTHING to do
with fly fishing or tying and is honestly why I don't
participate in this
list much anymore. Start a prayer list! Or better yet start
an Anti-WAR list
and I will post all over the thing. I'm SICK of what
OUR country is doing!
And I'm sick of these "support our troops"
stickers on cars. Our country is
going to hell and we can afford to pay for this war on
credit? Arrggg...
honestly I've got to stop now or I'll say stuff
that will hurt people's
feelings.
  
Let's keep this list on the subject of FLY FISHING and
TYING. Besides you
don't know what God somebody will be praying to...
could be the wrong guy.
  
Sorry about the rant.
Bill

  
-----Original Message-----
From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Dail Graham
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:58 AM
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Urgent Prayer Request
  
  
Jim-My prayer is for a successful surgery and rapid
recovery for Sgt Martin.
  
His sacrifice for us is greatly appreciated.  Dail
 Graham
US Army retired
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Desert Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Desert Eagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 11:09 PM
Subject: [VFB] Urgent Prayer
 Request
  
  
        
Folks, I have an Urgent Prayer Request for EVERYONE.
          
Sgt Anson Martin is
        
returning to the states for surgery on his shoulder.
          
This young man has
        
been a pen pal of mine and a major contact in country
          
in
 Iraq . We all know
        
that if it was not a serious situation he would not be
          
medivaced back to
        
the
states.
  
Being the Hero that he is, he is playing it off as a
          
no brainier. Please,
        
keep this young man, his wife and kids, Mother and
          
Father all in your
        
prayers. For a quick recovery, travel blessings for
          
him, and his parents
        
as
they head down to check on their son.
  
Sgt. Martin is the one who has put me in contact with
          
a Sgt. in country in
        
Afghanistan for CFOT. And he is the one who has been
          
keeping me updated on
        
arrivals and troops in country in
 Iraq . Please ask God
          
for special
        
blessings
for him, his family, and those he has left in country
          
whom he cares for so
        
much.
  
His heart is bigger than the entire South West.
Thanks,
Jimi
USCG ITWPATWT 100% Vet
  
  

  
          
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 Texas Fish & Game Mag, 
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