Thankx Wes........you hit the nail right on the head.......and by the way, i have no problem with "the industry" doing what it has to do to survive.......and to thrive for that matter. i just hate to see something as precious and spititual as fly fishing.....constantly being treated in such a mundane way, as a sport.
Fly fishing, (just as is "the music") is ABOUT, "the messege." When and if you hear certain people refere to "the music".......it is "the Messege" we are refering to. i've spent my entire life involved with the same exact thing, from within two worlds that are actually, one in the same. Jazz and fly fishing........both, are "About" the same exact thing. THE MESSEGE. And it is that, that needs exposure, attention, and sharing, so that more are inspired to take up the challange to solve the problems we have in so many area of our lives. Which brings us back to the subject at hand..........young people. It is SO true that we have a very serious problem with a very large lack of replacing all the old farts like me with young blood. i do "Conclaves" all over the country, and you see the same thing everywhere. The average age of an attendee.....is 50 something or older. That tells you all you need to know, bout how we are not doin' our job as good as we should be doin' it. Something is lacking in our ability to draw the yongsters to "the pursuit." And it's not just that they are intimidate by how "good" you need to be to catch a lotta fish. Or how expensive the "sport" is. There is something else missing. And i believe it is enough of us to take the time to show them what is really involved with fly fishing, BEYOND casting, reading water, presentation, knots, etc., etc., etc..........THAT'S where the problem lies. We're bombarding them with information.........all but the information they need to "understand" why we fish. And trust me.....it's NOT called fishing, because we don't call it catching..............you dig? Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:09:53 -0700 Subject: [VFB] Re: Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course From: wada....@gmail.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Interesting comments, Mark. Here's my take. Obviously Orvis has built this elaborate fly-casting course to encourage rod sales and interest in fly fishing in consumers. More power to the fly shops. The Mill District which is the area the fly casting course is in, is a restored, now commercial district, and they pitched in as well. We need money behind the effort to keep interest in fly fishing alive. Orvis is Orvis, and the Bend Orvis store has some very straight-on fly fishers on the staff. The president of the Central Oregon Flyfishers works at the store part-time. It's a very positive group of people, and it'd be fun to work at the store, in that respect. There are also at least six flyshops in the general area, and their survival depends on the commerce of fly fishing. On another note, I wish I were closer to a group of fly fishers who are basically young guys. I know they are out there, but the fly fishing clubs I see are comprised of a lot of folks around or past retirement age. Sure a lot of you have seen the same thing. We are not yet a dying breed. So the challenge is how do you get young people interested in fly fishing? I have tried mightily to interest my nephew (now age 16) in fly fishing. But we are two hours flighttime apart from each other. He liked to fish when he was younger, but the parents never got him out into the wilds much to wet a line. There are a lot of young people out there in similar straits. If you don't plant the tree when the ground is fertile, it's a lot harder to grow a tree. For my nephew, the ground is getting less fertile by the day. I feel (A.) you gotta get them out into the "wilds" and give them a nice fishing experience. That's the hook. (B.) The hoped for result, is they start to appreciate the natural beauty around them. And with soft guidance, they start to preserve the flora and fauna that envelopes the fly fishing experience. I thoroughly enjoyed Boy Scouts growing up in Colorado. Enjoyed a lot of stuff that isn't like anything in the city. That alone created a deep appreciation of nature, inside me. But how many kids you know these days, who are having a similar experience? Not many. That's troubling. Gotta do something about that. Your mileage may differ... Wes Wada Bend, OR On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Mark Romero <markflie...@hotmail.com> wrote: Pretty cool Wes.......i read the entire article.........and as we all should know by now, "Opinions are like ********, and everybody has one." So, for me that has always meant that we're all right....and in a sense, nobody is wrong. It's all in ones point of view. I'm refering of course, to fly fishing as a "sport." As someone who deals with it every day as a sport, in the sense that my wife is the Captain of an international team or two, ("competetive fly fishing"), and because i know many who are involved with competitive fly fishing.....i have to give them their propers as sportsman...........but also, as someone who actually see's fly fishing as something that absolutely has nothing to do with "Sport," i also think that until we go FAR beyond looking at it in just such a simple minded way.......we will remain in trouble, in terms of rising the consciousness of those who need to help us, and have the power to help us do the things we need to do, to insure that the "habitat" is saved for future generations. As long as fly fishing is deleniated as just a "sport," and not totally understood as the much deeper thing it really is......we will not gain the political clout we need to impower ourselves to truely be able to save the wild places we need to insure, for the futrue of "the sport." And as long as the "industry" is more concerned with "promoting the sport, and selling rods".....anglers will continue to see their weekends as something so precious, they need to spend them ALL fishing, instead of doing stream work or planting trees. Greed begets greed Bro. i've watched this me me me me me me atitude perpetuate itself for years amoung fly fishers. And the only thing they can talk about in the bar at the end of the day, is size and numbers.................bores the hell out of me. You never hear them talkin' bout the rip rap or riparian work they just completed along a stream. Or how many vibert boxes they just got installed into the strem bed for rearing young trout. It's all, check out my new $800 rod........boring Bro. Highly BORING. i guess it's just me.........but i don't see much of a future for our steams and rivers if fly fishing is going to be continuely looked at, as just a sport.......i don't think that enough caring individualls will be inspired to do the work that needs to be done if that's as shallow as it's going to remain. There simply isn't enough time left..............you dig? Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:39:41 -0700 Subject: [VFB] Something different: Orvis/Old Mill Fly-Casting Course From: w...@wadaworks.com To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com . I will be doing this Thursday for the first time with friend Steve. It's an 18-"hole" deal. http://tinyurl.com/kokwq5 Last weekend Orvis sponsored a Pro-Am tournament with a bunch of neat prizes. I was not in town, so couldn't participate, but will at least check it out on Thursday evening. I have seen a couple of the casting areas, but never have seen or casted the entire course. 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