Don,

I have always loved that pattern.  How much time did it take you to tie it?
I would take me days - not months to tie it.  Is the tail shaved or just the
hide?

Mike



On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote:

>  Mark, Nick,
>
> Sent both of you emails off list.
>
> This is Vladimir's Tiger Mouse that I tied for Mary Louise (TU Pres. in
> Idaho Falls), which she gave to Vlad when he tied at the Idaho Falls
> conclave 10 years ago.  He fell in love with it and said it was the neatest
> thing he'd seen in America on his trip.  So she presented it as a gift from
> her, the TU chapter, and me, to remember Idaho Falls.  Vlad is an old-timer
> VFB and a good friend, and old-timers here will remember him.  He is an
> incredible tier and a visit to his site is fun.
>
> My tiger-mouse on his site:
>
>  http://www.markov.baikal.ru/keep/8m/tiger.html
>
> I have been plagerized by others, one guy in particular named Fabrezio
> something-or-other (Italian), who has a reputation for stealing other
> people's patterns, techniques, art-flies, etc. and taking credit for himself
> and publishing their work as his own.  I exposed him to Chuck Furimski and
> others by comparing his site photos to my work and others, and not giving a
> word of credit to any of the tiers he copied.
>
> Had another event on flyanglersonline, where a tier copied my 'flex-o
> articulated 'rapala' minnow' down to the finest detail (right off my
> web-site) (but not as well done).  He submitted it to a tying contest and
> took 1st place in his catagory, claiming it as his pattern.  Diana (the site
> owner) did the same thing you (Mark) did and unknowingly published
> his forgery and praised him for 'thinking outside the box'.  She got an
> email fom me also, with photos proving the original.  So did the tying
> committee.  So did he.  I don't know if they pulled his award, but they
> should have.  She pulled his entry and the comment.
>
> Just as in the art-world, art theives in flytying are out there,and I
> consider them the trailer-trash of the business.
>
> Nick, thanks for the head's up.  I appreciate you looking out for me.
>
>  Don
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Mark Romero <markflie...@hotmail.com>
> *To:* virtual fly box <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, November 09, 2009 11:26 AM
> *Subject:* [VFB] Re: Swaps from 2004...
>
> Nick, i got no idea of any of what you say........the guy post a
> pic.....that's all i know. But i'll ask him about it. i just sent him a
> message a couple days ago, to see where he's been. He hasn't posted in a
> couple weeks and he's usually pretty active. i saw where you and him are
> friends on Facebook..........i think it was Facebook, lol. i'll be meeting
> him in person in Ireland in July. He's tying at that show we're tyin' at.
> Thankx for letting me know about it.
>
> ------------------------------
> From: niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Re: Swaps from 2004...
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 19:11:29 +0100
>
> Thx. I wish I had more time working on it though. Children, children,
> children... sometimes their mother (but those I can take LOL)... always
> something else. I need time to tie too. Every free minute within these walls
> is treasured.
>
> I registered to your site too and while I was looking back in the fly
> history I found something that I personally think you should do something
> about.
>
> Pictures and pictures and pictures of flies and suddenly I see a Tiger
> Mouse... DON'S Tiger Mouse... *by Ivan W. Crews*. 'By Ivan W. Crews' my
> ass. It's Don's pattern... Don's tied fly... and if that wasn't enough,
> it's even Don's picture (taken 5:th of June 2004... 9:08pm). Still in my
> Outlook inbox. There's not the smallest thing on the page that gives a
> hint who's the creator of the fly... but instead it gives the impression
> that it's by the member himself.
> http://pureartflytying.ning.com/photo?page=3
>
> I have seen my pictures of my own flies on forums and on other webpages,
> but they usually credit me for them... not technically *valid*, but if
> it's done right I don't mind. Mentioning my name, linking to my site, I
> consider both as favours in return. But if that picture of Don's Tiger Mouse
> was a picture of my Party Animal... I'd be *pissed for sure*. Lots of
> thinking and work behind that one. Powerful attention grabber on shows.
> Unique... and to me, my signature fly. If someone would do like that,
> presenting it as his own, I'd be furious... and if it was my own picture, I
> would actually have a case. If ignored by him, another option would be
> against the one who's actually responsible for publishing........ the owner
> of the site.
>
> I'm not telling you what you want to do, but in my opinion he deserves a
> word of correction. We're not talking about a Pheasant Tail or a Foam Ant,
> but ARTWORK. He's showing off the original Mona Lisa in his own gallery and
> has hidden Da Vinci's signature on it.
>
> /Nick
>
>
>  -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> *Från:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *För
> *Mark Romero
> *Skickat:* den 9 november 2009 15:05
> *Till:* virtual fly box
> *Ämne:* [VFB] Re: Swaps from 2004...
>
> Nick, i bookmarked your site...........it's very cool. Tkx., mark
>
> ------------------------------
> From: niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com
> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [VFB] Swaps from 2004...
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:50:45 +0100
>
> Found a box with three sets of swap flies the other day, from the three
> first swaps I participated in. MAN, was I nervous in that first one... tied
> 60 flies before I could pick out 20 (and I think I stopped more because I
> was exhausted than because I was satisfied).
>
> Anyhow, there are a few NoNames among them. I dug out participation info
> from old VFB mails (good thing with never cleaning up the inbox). But didn't
> come up 100% and some toe-tags had only tier's name.
>
> So, to the ones participating in '*Stonefly Swap 2004*', '*Caddis Swap
> 2004*' and '*Renegade Swap 2004*', if you could check them on
> http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/flyswaps.htm and fill in blanks (or
> correct what is there), it would be appreciated.
>
> /Nick
>
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> now. >
>


-- 
Mike Bliss
Aloha from Hawaii

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