I made good experience with the Tiemco 105 as tube Fly hook. Thomas -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] Im Auftrag von Wes Wada Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. November 2009 16:48 An: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com Betreff: [VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy)
Hi Jeff, In the past, I've used the plastic tube from a Q-Tip. Works fine. Also, any hobby shop will have an assortment of plastic and brass tubes that can be cut down for use. You can line a metal tube with a plastic insert by finding a tube and insert that are of similar inside and outside diameters, then just heat the plastic with a lighter to form rounded ends of plastic encapsulating the ends of the metal tube. On the other question, circle hooks would likely not be a good choice. Circle hooks are primarily for bait applications where you don't want to deep hook fish in the gut. If you strike with a circle hook, often you will just pull the fly out of the fish's mouth. These hooks are designed so that fish hook themselves as the circle hook is designed to lodge in the corner of the fish's jaw. Instead try to find a short shank, wide gape hook. I happen to like a Gamakatsu Finesse Wide Gap in small sizes, but that hook is hard to find. Wes Wada Bend, Oregon On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Jeff Frye <bighawk...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Thanks for that information, Paul. I am going to pick up that Mandel and Johnson book for about $20. Photos should be terrific, as I see Jim Schollmeyer was the shooter. I am curious what folks use for plastic tubes, metal tubes and for junction tubing. I am not going to save much money buying a lot of specialized tubes from Eumer. It would be cheaper in a lot of cases to just buy hooks. I have a good supply for tungsten coneheads at a great price and a big stash of tungsten beads. Also does anybody have suggestions on Mustad hooks? Are circle hooks a good idea for these? I knew I was going to hit the gold mine of information here as usual. And I was able to get Paul Marriner off the bench! Thanks again > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Paul <pm...@tallships.ca> > To: VFB Mail <vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 8:24:58 AM > Subject: [VFB] Re: Tube Flies (was AttaBoy, Jimmy) > > > Jeff > > While a little dated, Mandel & Johnson's Tube Flies will give you > plenty to chew on for a whole lot less money than the Sawada book. > > Here's part of an article I wrote on plastic tube flies. There is also > a vast variety of metal tubes. One advantage not mentioned below---may > not apply to you---is that if you fish both barbed and barbless hooks, > either through choice or regulation, one only needs half as many flies > because the fly is separated from the hook. > > Advantage Tubes > • Cost: Plastic tubes are dirt cheap; the ones I use cost less than > one cent each. One needs only a few hooks for thousands of flies. > Moreover, an array of hook styles can be replaced by several styles is > a few sizes. > • Weight (1): Plastic tubes are light, making them easier to cast than > flies on large hooks and avoiding those nasty raps in the back of the > head when a gust knocks down a backcast. > • Weight (2): Very cold water may dampen the taking enthusiasm of some > species, making it essential to get the fly down with sinking or sink- > tip lines. Then, heavy hooks may catch the bottom; plastic tubes ride > higher. With tubes I have noticed a considerable reduction in the > number of my flies contributed to the bottom’s decor. > • Hooking (1): I believe long-shank hooks can lever themselves loose > during an extended battle. Tubes use short-shank hooks and the tube > rides up the leader after hooking-up. In my experience they retain an > excellent hold. > • Hooking (2): I admit to reaching somewhat here, but it seems to me > that using tubes has reduced the number of lightly-hooked fish.. > • Versatility: Tubes are incredibly versatile. One can make a half- > inch fly by cutting a tube or a ten-inch fly by stringing several > tubes together; no need to mess with tandems. Some folks are under the > impression that tube patterns must be tied in the round; this is > false.. Standard patterns are easily tied and, with the hook and wing > providing stability, orient themselves properly. > • Tying ease: Although not a big deal, some patterns are easier to tie > on tubes due to the increased space at the rear of the tube. > • Storage: Forget expensive fly-boxes (unless you want to buy a > special tube box from the UK), a simple plastic box with divided > compartments is all one needs. Oh yes, and say goodbye to barbless > hooks falling out of a fly-patch. Just throw the wet fly in the box > and open the lid at the end of the day—nothing to rust. > > Liabilities > • Although someone will surely argue with me, I consider tubes to be > useful only for the equivalent of a standard size 10 or larger hook. > I’m speaking here of shank length. Some of my smallest tubes are mated > to size 14 hooks. > • Inexpensive plastic tubes have a larger diameter than most hook > wires; thus you will use more of any wrapped material for each fly. > Regardless, smaller diameter plastic tubing is available, just not as > cheaply or easily. > > Paul Marriner > Outdoor Writing & Photography. Owner: Gale's End Press. Member: OWAA & > OWC. Author of: (NEW) Atlantic Salmon: A Fly Fishing Reference, A > Compendium of Canadian Fly Patterns (co-author), Stillwater Fly > Fishing: Tools & Tactics, How to Choose & Use Fly-tying Thread, Modern > Atlantic Salmon Flies, Miramichi River Journal, Ausable River Journal, > and Atlantic Salmon. > > On Nov 10, 6:20 pm, Jeff Frye <bighawk...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I'm with Jimmy on this one. I need to get some value from that many e-mails. Otherwise Facebook or an IM might be a better place for that kind of stuff. There are folks that used to be regulars on here that are gone form the list. I know that they are alive because I still get private e-mail from them. >> >> That said, I know several years ago, we had a thread on tube flies going. I am now actually interested tube flies and am wondering if anybody can: >> >> 1. list me what they see to be the advantages/disadvantages of tube flies >> 2. Best applications for tube flies such as patterns that this style would work well on >> 3. Any resources for info like web sites or books you might know of >> 4. Anything else you might want to share with the group >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you might provide to the group >> >> ________________________________ > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
