I first used Cellire in the 1950's and I have gone back to it now that it is available again. Was hard to get for many years, I used to buy mine in the UK. I now have 3 bottles of Cellire. clear, red and black. I use the coloured cellire primarily for steelhead flies. The red bottle is well over 5 years old, but I have kept it thinned with lacquer thinner without any problems at all. It just works regardless of any cross linking!
Neville (Nev) Gosling On 2012-03-12, at 8:51 AM, Scott Bearden wrote: > My advice is don't try to thin it, get a fresh batch. I know people try to > save things and not let things go to waste, but in this case you are running > up against something that has run its chemical course. I use varnish mostly > for bamboo rod making, but once it starts to set I get a fresh batch. What is > happening is the polymers are cross linking and forming a bond. You really > can't reverse that without consequences. If you are using it to bond to the > thread and hold things together, thinning it, especially after it has started > to set or gel will weaken the final cured product. If you want to thin it > when it is fresh, just remember that less is better. > > Lacquers and Varnishes pretty much use two different thinners. You can use > Acetone based thinners for lacquer, but don't use that for varnish it just > destroys it. For most varnishes you should look at the MSDS and see what the > thinning component used is. Turpentine is my personal preference, but mineral > spirits work too. Naptha is another thinner for varnishes. Use the same > thinner the manufacturer used and you should be all right. It does make a > difference. > > The Dettes only used varnish on their flies and they bought it in bulk from > the hardware store. I personally prefer the Ace Hardware Spar varnish. There > is a difference between spar varnish and poly varnishes. Poly will dry and > cure faster for flies, but the bottle will probably go bad faster as well. > You can buy a small 4 ounce can from most hardware stores for just a few > dollars, and some high quality stuff at artist supply stores. Get some > smaller bottles and divide it up. Fill them to the top. Oxygen is your worst > enemy and the greater volume of air in the bottle and the greater surface > area of the top of the varnish, the faster things are going to work against > you. > > Regards, > > Scott > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > I use lacquer thinners. Works for me. > > Neville (Nev) Gosling > > > On 2012-03-12, at 7:10 AM, Bob Hendry wrote: > >> 'Mornin Folks, >> >> Can someone please tell me what I should use to thin Veniard's Cellire >> Varnish? Mine is starting to thicken-up a bit to the point where I don't >> believe that it can soak through a thread head. I know that Veniard's >> markets a proprietary thinner, but I'd like to avoid laying out another $5 >> or $6 to buy it. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Bob Hendry >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com
