Bob: Yeah, sadly I went to 3 different pain management docs over a period of 15 
yrs, and all three were nothing more than “pill mills”. The last one, I saw for 
12 yrs, and just stopped going there after October 2013 after he prescribed me 
eight 10mg Methadone tablets per day. Then, I’d get epidurals (which helped 
1000%) every other month, or every third month. But even though I never once 
took over 4 Methadone tablets a day, I asked if I could just come off the meds, 
and take the epidurals. He said “No, either you need them both or you don’t 
need either”. That was code to me as saying “we know it’s the drugs that keep 
most ppl coming back here”. Well, it made me mad as I wasn’t “most ppl”. 

Anyway, it was such a turn around from 12 yrs earlier when he was fresh out of 
his pain management specialty training and thought  of you as a person, and not 
 “$$ signs”. First time I saw the guy, back in 2001, he drew pics for my wife 
and I after getting my results of an MRI he ordered and explaining EVERYTHING 
from Here’s how the spinal cord works and looks, or how it’s SUPPOSED to look 
and work, and here is how yours looks and works, and here’s the “plan of 
attack” to get you feeling better etc ect. And it worked. After the VA quacks 
I’d seen he was a God send. But as he got more and more patients, and his love 
for money grew and grew, it got sadder and sadder.  Anyway, I know there are 
great pain management docs out there and maybe I’ll find another one, but they, 
like VA docs, have left a bad taste in my mouth for now. And it’s sad, because 
I think that most ppl really are in pain, but as usually, the drug seekers are 
the ones that make it to where the few hurt the many, and the ppl who really do 
need pain relief cannot find it because the docs are afraid of the Govt. Chuck

From: Bob 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 7:56 PM
To: VFB 
Subject: Re: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed

You have them.  Have you looked into pain management?  My back problems cannot 
be repaired surgically.  My spinal canal is shrinking due to arthritis.  PM has 
been a godsend.  It took awhile but they got the pain under control.  I can 
still work.  Fishing has been limited but I am hoping to be able to start 
again.  I can finally sit in a car for more than 20 min!

BobH



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From: "Chuck Alexander" <chuckalexan...@centurylink.net>
To: "fly fishing for panfish" 
<flyfishingandflytyingforpanf...@yahoogroups.com>, vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Cc: "Cheaper Living" <cheaperliv...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 8:40:45 PM
Subject: [VFB] Thoughts and prayers needed


Folks: I had to see my doc today about a back condition (6 bulging discs all 
total) I have had for yrs. Last Thursday I put a Reese type hitch on my new  PT 
Cruiser that We took off the old Cruiser one it got wrecked. Anyway, crawling 
around under that car on my back, with the car on ramps and/or jack stands was 
a no no, as when I woke up Friday morning my right leg, from the knee to my 
toes, and my right thumb and index finger were both sound asleep. Not pins and 
nedles, but ASLEEP. But I thought I had just slept wrong, and wiggled my toes 
and digits all day, but the feeling didn’t come back for 30 hours or so and 
when it did, it went from numb, to pins and needles, then to pain, and even 
now, my fingers are all good, but the back of my right calf feels like a mule 
kicked it.

So, I had to see my doc about it today,and he thinks I might need back surgery 
as he can actually feel a part of my spine that is swollen, and that, combined 
with X-rays, he is referring me to an Ortho doc. He bypassed a rheumatologist 
as he can see arthritis on my spine, but says it’s minor enough that he don’t 
think it’s the problem causing the pain. So, he asked had I ever been told I 
needed surgery and I told him that although I had seen a lot of docs about it, 
I always told then that I did NOT want surgery as I knew a lot of ppl who were 
worse off AFTER back surgery than before, and our pastor;s wife in FL had 
fusion surgery and was bed ridden for six MONTHS. But, those were the “bad old 
days”, and there are commercials on TV now that say they can (depending on the 
problem etc of course) make a 1/2” to 1” incision, and have you up and walking 
a little the next day, what with micro and/or laser surgery etc.

Plus, I’m at the point now with the amt. of pain, that I’ll try anything, or it 
won’t be long till my fishing days are over, as well as exercising not to 
mention AND bending, stooping, lifting, twisting etc. It already hurts like 
crazy to just drive or ride in a car more than about 20 miles. It got so bad 
recently that the yr we were FINALLY planning to come to Sow Bug, we had to 
cancel that plan as I knew my back would not allow a 1,000 round trip 
drive/ride in just a few days. I wouldn’t be able to enjoy it if I did make it. 
Anyway, please keep me in your thoughts and prayers that whatever it has to be, 
whether surgery or whatever, that it will help the problem, and I’ll have a 
speedy recovery as it’s getting old like I said. I just bought both my grand 
daughters new fishing rods and reels, tackle box filled with tackle, and they 
want “Paw Paw” to be able to take them fishing soon as the water warms up a 
little and I surely want to take them too. Because of moving, and my stomach 
problems last yr, it’s been going on four yrs since I was able to have a full 
fishing season’s worth of fishing, and I’m having fishing “withdrawal” symptoms 
here LOL... I can’t even sit in place long enough to tie over about 3 flies at 
a time without having to get up and walk around a little. Thanks a lot, Chuck



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