In addition to my ealier post, the hackle fiber length on my buggers is 
often 2 to 2-1/2 times the hook gape.  Give me a full bugger without having 
to tie the hackle too dense.  Also gives it alot of undulating movement in 
the water.

- Gary

At 07:55 AM 02/08/2002, you wrote:
>Thanks Tony F, this brings me to the point I consider most important on a fly.
>
>(you wrote)
>>I use schlappen for most of my hackles on buggers.. I  find a difference in
>>the way the fish react (mostly smallmouth fishing) My hackles end up flowing
>>back as far as the tail
>
>Motion, movement, the impression of life.  I don't tie mine bushy because 
>I want the hackle (I think Byard sent me schlappen) to have unrestricted 
>movement.  My marabou tails are tied half shank to 3/4 shank length, with 
>and without krystalflash..  Sometimes I like a bit of wiggle and others 
>some undulating motion.  My early attempts with stiff hackle caught very 
>few fish.
>
>Murf

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