John,
I sometimes tie mine with a sparse wrap on the body and use the fluffy part of the 
hackle to make a collar wrap at the front. I do wrap the hackle flat for the palmer 
part and on edge for the collar part.
Tony    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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> When you guys tie woolly buggers, do you make the palmered hackle thick or sparse, 
>hen hackle or rooster?  Just curious.  I usually tie mine up with two hen hackles, I 
>like them bushy like that, but I awas wondering if I would have even better luck 
>fishing them sparse.  I once tied some without a palmered body, just one hen hackle 
>as a collar.  Out fished most of my other ones.  But I have not really fished that 
>pattern enough to test it out right.
>
> Let me know
> JOhn

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