This will probably get buried with all of the other posts on this subject, but how about the presentation the fly itself makes? Up until this year I was certain that the San Juan Worm tied with a piece of Ultra Chenille lashed to a hook with both tips burned to a taper was the only one to use. i had seen versions of the San Juan made by wrapping a Mustad "All Around" style hook (this is a hook that has a large hump in its bend and then the barbed part bends abruptly and points straight toward the eye of the hook) with vinyl, but figured something that stiff would never work. It just seemed to be common sense that that the chenille would wave in the water and look "wormy".

Well, during the summer I went fishing with a friend who had a "hot new fly" for the Weber River. It was the wrapped hook version of the San Juan wrapped with a fluorescent pink-orange kite string. I put on my chenille version and thought "I'll show this guy" and he out fished me ten to one. The Browns were simply slamming his fly! Finally I swallowed my pride and asked him for one and immediately started catching fish. Since then I have tied some of my own and the are amazingly productive especially in off color water.

So here is my theory. Even though the hook itself is stiff I bet the shape causes it to twist and wobble in the water creating an illusion of motion... in other words, the fly itself is making a presentation similar to a lure.

What do you think?

Tom

On Nov 1, 2004, at 9:13 PM, mark romero wrote:

Tony, VERY interesting..........and Congrats on the new great grand daughter. That's a blessing for sure. What'a ya think? Bamboo first? lol, mark.......

From: Tony Spezio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [VFB] Patterns and Presentation
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 19:34:23 -0600

I kind of been following this tread so I will post about yesterday. I
have not been on the water for over two months due to reasons I will not
discuss on the list. It has been raining for several days. I have been
trying to get caught up on tying flies. Yesterday morning the dam was
shut down and the water was as low as it will get, great for wading but
I was forced to fish from my boat. I was tying and just could not resist
it anymore so I geared up and hit the river.
I motored up to Tucker Shoals and dropped anchor. When I got up there
there was one fly fisher wading at Tucker.
I tied on a brown soft hackle cast for about 1/2 hour had a bump .
Changed flies several times and nothing. I noticed the wading fisherman
catching trout an about every third cast. It was raining real hard. The
harder it rained the more hookups he had. I only had another bump on a
brown Sowbug. As he got closer I asked what he was using, guess what, A
brown sowbug like I had on the tippet. He caught trout right in front of
the boat while we were talking, caught trout behind the boat too. In
desperation, I tied on a broken down Chili Pepper, on the first cast I
hooked up, big brown, They are heading up river to the reds at the dam.
I never got it close to the boat before I lost it. I am now getting a
bit wet so I started drifting back home. A couple of casts later I
hooked into another large trout. Could see the flashing in the water so
I guess it was a Bow. That fish broke me off. I got to thinking about
the guy at Tucker. He was using a strike Indicator (Bobber ) as I know
it. Our presentations were the same an far as I could see. When he was
by the boat we were drifting the same fly almost side by side.
Was the indicator the answer, holding the fly at a given depth, did it
give the fly a certain movement that I did not have, Did I twitch the
fly and scare off the fish. Don't know, Maybe I was away from the water
too long.
My grand daughter just got here with our new 6 week old Great grandson
we haven't seen yet.
Got to go.
Tony




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