Ed: That does work... I tie a Black Widow spider like that.. I tie it on a #12 or #14... I build the head from black thread, then glue it and clear coat it with Sally Hard as Nails... Slip on a red craft bead for the  "hourglass" (and to give it weight)..Tie on the abdomen in black thread and seal as before. Then I either come behind the bead and tie in a webby "wet" hackle" and another of these in front of the bead", or, recently, just tie one black webby wet hackle feather in front of the bead.. It gets saturated, and the fly sinks,(at least a few inches below the surface, depending on my retrieval rate) but is a real bluegill getter, Chuck
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From: Ed Roden
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Weighted Dry Flies

You can weight them or design them differently - I have a glass bead ant that I use to fish subsurface.  One of the articles I read commented that you don't really see ants stay on top of the water long - they struggle and start to sink.  This pattern is great on Paint Creek here by my house - I'll fish it as a dropper with an adams as my indicator.

On 12/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was wondering if I'm the only one that does this. I weight some "Dry Flies" with lead wire to make them sink...There is a few in particular, and I have had real good luck with it... Foam Beetles, Foam Spiders (or any bluegill foam fly with rubber legs).. Ants, and letort hoppers..
At least THIS time of the year because I only fish for bluegill (and bass( because there are NO trout here. The fish are not feeding on top, even in the late evening, like they do in the Spring/Summer.. So, I started weighting these flies to "get the flies to where the fish are". Anybody else do this??? Any others you weight that I didn't mention and you have good luck with. That weighted Letort Hopper, tied in a dark brown (almost black) with rubber segmented legs is great, because around here, one of the best fishing for brim is done with hook, sinker, bobber, and live crickets.. Well, by tying those in dark color to look like a cricket, and "twitching" it through the water to make it look alive..... It is a great fly....Or, am I just a nutcase of the group??? Allan Fish you do NOT get to answer that LOL... All the DVD's, Tapes I have seen say to "experiment"... so I do. All you other "dry fly weighters" come out of the closet and join Me LOL... Chuck
 



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