Tony: I think you answered my question. I was tying (TRYING LOL) to tie chili peppers with the 6/0 orange BEHIND a gold beadhead.. I'll try less rounds and a double knot, Chuck

----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Spezio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] Guderbrod Thread Question


Chuck
Not seeing what you are doing, it is hard to tell you
what is going wrong. I have seen this happen a lot
when the Whip knot is tied behind a bead. What happens
is the thread does not get tight behind the bead, it
climbes up the face of the bead. What I do is push the
wraps down behind the bead, with my fingernail, pull
tight each time  and then make the knot, then a second
knot. Another thing is too many wraps and not getting
each wrap tight enough. When you pull on the thread
and clip it, the thread acts like a rubber band and
springs back under the wraps.
These are just a few common things that happen, wish I
could see what you are doing so that I can help you.
When you say the Gudebrod thread don't work for you,
YOUSE IS STEPPING ON ME TOES> LOL That is the only
thread I use.
Whip Knot Tony

--- Chuck Alexander
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Folks: It's probably something a "rookie tier" like
myself is doing wrong, but when Nick brought up
Guderbrod thread yesterday I think it was..Well, I
tried that brand, and I CANNOT get the whip finish
knot NOT to unravel.. No matter if I whip finish
3-4-5-6 etc rounds, if I snipped off the thread
really close, it (the knot) would come unraveled,
like some of the nylon ropes that there are that
just will not hold a knot..Like it has more wax than
it needed??? So, I have been using Uni Thread and
Danville's with no problems..The thread (The
Guderbrod) "feels" like great thread, so, am i doing
something wrong??? Cause I have a few spools and
hate to see anything go to waste, Thanks, Chuck



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